EX move canceling

[Mikemetroid]

Let me give you a situation.

Its a Cage mirror match, one Cage is pressuring the other. The other cage tries to do an EX Nut punch (non armored, but fast). However because of the pressure being done to him he instead blocks the attack but loses his meter. He wasn't knocked out of the EX nutpunch but instead of doing it, he blocks.

This happens to me a lot as Cage, and I think it happens to a lot of other characters. Has anyone else experienced this?

 

[leek]

Oh thank god, I thought I was just like retarded or something.

Yeah this has happened to me multiple times, trying to use the invincibility on startup thing here and set up frame adv when I'm locked down but it just burns meter with no result..

 

[Fuzzymic14]

I think this is for every character. Happens with me for Sek and Raiden. This glitch is so retarded.

 

[shura30]

it's a glitch or it can be pulled off constantly?

 

[FrothyOmen]

This happens to me all the time as Smoke vs JC. He'll be doing stutter strings and I'll try to squeeze an EX Shake inbetween them to get him off me, and I'll usually just drop a bar of meter and the shake won't come out, however I will still block the attacks normally. It's only ever happened to me online, but then again I've never played a real offline game before so I can't comment on that.

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

Happens offline too, Cage is just that quick

 

[Dizzy]

to the OP, not sure what happened, i've never gotten hit out of EX nut punch (had the meter taken and had it not come out)

to some of the other posts: EX shake has startup, its not active on frame 1. if you are hit in the very early frames it will be stuffed and not counter the physical attack. same thing happens with liu kangs parry and EX parry.

CSZ is not like this however, it is active on the first frame (or damn near close) much like JCs x-ray. there is no startup for it to be hit it out of

to the other dude: if youre talking about EX teleport it takes a LONG time for the armor to become active surprisingly. you can get poked out of it very easily

 

[Trini_Bwoi]

This happens with X-rays sometimes but the meter doesn't disappear at least. I think it's the same thing. When getting pressured I'll be mashing those trigger buttons but the character just keep blocking instead of X-raying.

 

[Dizzy]

This happens with X-rays sometimes but the meter doesn't disappear at least. I think it's the same thing. When getting pressured I'll be mashing those trigger buttons but the character just keep blocking instead of X-raying.

The explanation here is you most likely did not leave block. Exiting block takes times and if you hold block, then release it and press x-ray before fully exit block, the game will just resume the block animation. You can recreate this in practice mode, just hold block then mash x-ray. If you do it extremely fast you will "spam" the block animation a few reps before getting your xray out probably.

Also not you cannot armored x-ray while being jailed by a string. For example, if you blocked a jump in punch and attempted to mash x-ray you would either continue to block the rest of the hits or your block would end and you would be hit by the remainder of the string depending on if you happen to mash xray at the proper intervals to accidentally block the string.

Basically the proper thing to do when being pressured and trying to blow through it with an armored move (xray) would be to see the string end, let go of block fully then perform it. Mashing while in block can result in you just staying in block or even worse, having your character exit block while in a jailing string and being hit.

I also feel its worthwhile to mention that when your character is in a stagger state (kabal f+4, johnny nut punch, cyrax command throw) you must block the follow up if they don't time if wrong. Attempting an armored move here to get out of pressure is impossible and will just result in them getting free damage.

 

[Creepy00]

From what i seen, this Happens more with Mix up characters cause you need to constantly add pressure for their game. Happen to me with Sektor and Mileena, but at times with subzero. Is a game bug :/

 

[OutworldKeith]

I'm a Scorpion player and something similar happened against a Sub-Zero player
He was giving good pressure w/ ice clone & had me trapped in the corner then he went for a jip & I usually (EX)Spear against jip because it has armor & when I did it normal spear launched & I still lost meter

 

[Trini_Bwoi]

The explanation here is you most likely did not leave block. Exiting block takes times and if you hold block, then release it and press x-ray before fully exit block, the game will just resume the block animation. You can recreate this in practice mode, just hold block then mash x-ray. If you do it extremely fast you will "spam" the block animation a few reps before getting your xray out probably.

Also not you cannot armored x-ray while being jailed by a string. For example, if you blocked a jump in punch and attempted to mash x-ray you would either continue to block the rest of the hits or your block would end and you would be hit by the remainder of the string depending on if you happen to mash xray at the proper intervals to accidentally block the string.

Basically the proper thing to do when being pressured and trying to blow through it with an armored move (xray) would be to see the string end, let go of block fully then perform it. Mashing while in block can result in you just staying in block or even worse, having your character exit block while in a jailing string and being hit.

I also feel its worthwhile to mention that when your character is in a stagger state (kabal f+4, johnny nut punch, cyrax command throw) you must block the follow up if they don't time if wrong. Attempting an armored move here to get out of pressure is impossible and will just result in them getting free damage.

Ah, it's probably is the exiting block one. Thanks for the tips.

 

[Ashenar]

It's happened to me on kenshi as well during a ex RK.

 

[GGA soonk]

I'm a Scorpion player and something similar happened against a Sub-Zero player
He was giving good pressure w/ ice clone & had me trapped in the corner then he went for a jip & I usually (EX)Spear against jip because it has armor & when I did it normal spear launched & I still lost meter

Happens constantly to me, too, with the EX spear. Meter goes, nothing happens, not even regular spear. Fun times.

 

[Dizzy]

Happens constantly to me, too, with the EX spear. Meter goes, nothing happens, not even regular spear. Fun times.

If you are going to the FxS qualifier at GGA this thursday we can get some quick testing in if you're up to it. I think it actually has a very small window at the beginning of startup that doesn't have armor on it, actually. If that's true then ex spear just doesn't have startup armor, only armor in late startup or active only. But I need another human to test that theory =P

If true then its actually not a glitch probably, it just wasn't intended to have armor from frame 1.

 

[GGA soonk]

If you are going to the FxS qualifier at GGA this thursday we can get some quick testing in if you're up to it. I think it actually has a very small window at the beginning of startup that doesn't have armor on it, actually. If that's true then ex spear just doesn't have startup armor, only armor in late startup or active only. But I need another human to test that theory =P

If true then its actually not a glitch probably, it just wasn't intended to have armor from frame 1.

I don't think I'll be going to that since I'll be at FxS all 3 days. If you go to FxS on Friday we can test it then, though.