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Do you think we have stage selection rules right?

Jon Berg

Mortal
So watching Evo has got me thinking, do we have the best possible stage selection rules? There is no denying that winning the first match has a pretty substantial inherent bonus to it, making it so if the set goes to 3 games you are guaranteed your map twice. In a game where stage matters as much as this one, I don't think this is the best possible solution. I propose the following:

Every map is random, with the loser afforded the ability to re-random. How can this be done? Easy, player two hits start. Or NRS can patch in a random button like every other fighter has.

I think this is the best way to not only allow a more neutral playing field for everyone, but also have all the stages get some play and get people learning. Is loser picks stage the best option? Like my solution? Have one of your own? Let me know what you think.
 

Jon Berg

Mortal
Random EVERY. SINGLE. GOD. DAMN. TIME.

Then they would be fine

You don't think the re-random for loser is a good option? Give the loser even a tiny bit of say into how things go? Like you are killer frost, lose the first, see Rooftop come up and gamble for a re-random. Might get another shitty stage, but at least you have an option.
 

SUPARNOVAX

Low tier? I was born in it, molded by it
This doesn't need to happen at all

All random with one reroll is the way to go. And NRS needs to put in an actual random button for stages.
Yeah but some of the random ones are pretty good and some archetypes have certain stages better. It's really tacky match up balance to leave it up to that IMO.

Turn off skycrapper interactables. Such discantage to gadget charcters and raven, flash
If it would be done for one, it must be an option for all.
 

Jon Berg

Mortal
Turn off skycrapper interactables. Such discantage to gadget charcters and raven, flash

Hence the reroll if you happen to get rooftop as an acrobat character and feel its no dice. Unless its the first random in which case, play on. The random factor is good.
 

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
You don't think the re-random for loser is a good option? Give the loser even a tiny bit of say into how things go? Like you are killer frost, lose the first, see Rooftop come up and gamble for a re-random. Might get another shitty stage, but at least you have an option.
That is always available.
 

DanCock

Cock Master!!
Actually I loved the stage select rules they came up with.

Good job to whoever thought of it!! Cause ect had stupid stage rules.


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ShadowBeatz

Dropper of Bass and Bombs
I say, while we're trying out different ideas for stages, have ONE tournament where interactables are off, and see how it goes. Make this whole controversy irrelevant
 

Jon Berg

Mortal
I say, while we're trying out different ideas for stages, have ONE tournament where interactables are off, and see how it goes. Make this whole controversy irrelevant

Could be a cool experiment, but I think the general consensus is intractables are a fun and interesting addition to the game, and shouldnt be removed for the most part. The whole best of 3/5 winning first and getting your stage more is a kind of big deal though, which could be alleviated with all random with loser rerolls.
 

Duck Nation

Dicks with a future
I don't think the stages are as imbalanced as people believe, especially not now after the rooftop adjustments. That said, if we allow people to baby themselves with their favorite stages then we're essentially letting them get away with not having a complete tool set, and that in itself is bullshit. Random every time with a reroll option is definitely the way to go.