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DeathBattle: Thor vs. Raiden

http://www.screwattack.com/shows/originals/death-battle/next-time-death-battle

Holy crap, the guys at death battle are gonna pit both gods of thunder to a death battle. We need your input on how the f*** can raiden actually hurt thor before they release the video. Honestly I dont think it's a fair battle, even in Elder God form... suggestions please!

PS: The only viable strategy I can think of is before raiden gets his ass handed by Thor's God Blast he can send a message back to his past self... like a bajillion times until he figures out how to defeat him.
 

Z-911-Z

Bone and Metal
PS: The only viable strategy I can think of is before raiden gets his ass handed by Thor's God Blast he can send a message back to his past self... like a bajillion times until he figures out how to defeat him.
Man, that's like some Yu-Gi-Oh type stalling bullshit.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Simple, normal Raiden vs. normal Thor depends but Thor probably has the edge.

Most powerful versions though, Elder God Raiden would murk Thor. Elder Gods=are omnipotent. Elder God Raiden would beat Thor, any version of him. The Elder Gods created the entire MKU eons ego themselves. So yeah...plus, Raiden is immortal.
 

Alice

Haaave you met Sektor?
Well, I think Raiden should start the battle with killing Liu Kang that would be even their chances for sure.
 
Simple, normal Raiden vs. normal Thor depends but Thor probably has the edge.

Most powerful versions though, Elder God Raiden would murk Thor. Elder Gods=are omnipotent. Elder God Raiden would beat Thor, any version of him. The Elder Gods created the entire MKU eons ego themselves. So yeah...plus, Raiden is immortal.
Raiden has nothing that can hurt Thor, that's his biggest problem. If Raiden is granted his imortaility the best he can hope for is a draw since neither would be able to kill the other.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
I always found it funny how Thor needs his little hammer to fly :p

Raiden has nothing that can hurt Thor, that's his biggest problem. If Raiden is granted his imortaility the best he can hope for is a draw since neither would be able to kill the other.
Normal versions maybe, but not EG version of Raiden. But then, you can make the same case for Thor trying to hurt Raiden, physically he may be stronger then Raiden(although we haven't seen Raiden go all out often and see his full potential, example he literally plowed motaro thru a bridge made of concrete and steel....obviously he's very powerful, but mostly doesn't go all out(a lot like Superman in that sense) he can heal, use time travel, teleport instantly and fly without having to hold a magic hammer...so he could merely dodge every attack by Thor thus a stalemate.

Now, in terms of EG Raiden, my initial stance still remains. He/They can create, grant and resurrect people among other things as mentioned they created the realms of MKU. They just prefer not to get involved...so I'd have to disagree with ya there. Normal versions is imo pointless, both are immortal gods well...Thor is technically a demi-god anyway. Raiden is a full out God, but status aside. Thor really depends upon his hammer and Odin. Raiden doesn't. He was pretty much created since the beginning of time by the Elder Gods from the heavens as Earth's protector...and Raiden is an immortal, the only reason he was going to die in the future of MKA was because Shao Kahn had killed Blaze and Blaze had granted whoever killed him ominipotent powers to do whatever they wanted, at that point only the Elder Gods could really step in....
 

Metzos

You will BOW to me!
You guys should really check Odin Force Thor and Rune Thor and then you ll change your mind about Raiden being able to win against Thor. Elder God Raiden is strong yes. But Rune Thor and Odin Force Thor are on par with the Celestial ones in the Marvel universe.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
You guys should really check Odin Force Thor and Rune Thor and then you ll change your mind about Raiden being able to win against Thor. Elder God Raiden is strong yes. But Rune Thor and Odin Force Thor are on par with the Celestial ones in the Marvel universe.
Rune Thor didn't create a Universe though, while he is the most powerful version of Thor...

Elder Gods>>>>Rune Thor

The Elder Gods are the Presence or TOAA(The one above all) of MKU, as they're the respected creators of their universese(DC, Marvel and MKU) Rune Thor would have to be near their level of power which he isn't...

Celestials are also no where near TOAA power levels.


Pretty much each series has a "universal creator"

DCU-The Presence(nothing is more powerful)
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Presence_(New_Earth)

Marvel-TOAA(The one above all) nothing more powerful
http://marvel.wikia.com/One-Above-All_(Multiverse)

MKU-The Elder Gods(nothing more powerful)
http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/Elder_Gods



Rune Thor is merely the most powerful version of the character, he is not however anywhere near the power of those three aforementioned deities. There are also quite a few other DC and Marvel characters who aren't on par with Presence or TOAA yet way more powerful then Rune Thor such as Spectre, Living Tribunal, Superman Prime 1 Million, Mxy, Eternity etc, etc
 

RagingNight

Kombatant
The Marvel Universe is just stupid crazy. Too many of their characters can simply destroy everything. Franklin Richard, Thanos with the infinite gauntlet, Phoenix force, Dorm, Shuma, Living Tribunal, Odin, Death, Galactus, The One Above All, Eternity and etc etc

Thor at his height is able to destroy planets the size of earth, can travel to different dimensions, moves faster than the speed of light and can do a bunch of bullshit.
 

Metzos

You will BOW to me!
Rune Thor didn't create a Universe though, while he is the most powerful version of Thor...

Elder Gods>>>>Rune Thor

The Elder Gods are the Presence or TOAA(The one above all) of MKU, as they're the respected creators of their universese(DC, Marvel and MKU) Rune Thor would have to be near their level of power which he isn't...

Celestials are also no where near TOAA power levels.


Pretty much each series has a "universal creator"

DCU-The Presence(nothing is more powerful)

Marvel-TOAA(The one above all) nothing more powerful

MKU-The Elder Gods(nothing more powerful)

Rune Thor is merely the most powerful version of the character, he is not however anywhere near the power of those three aforementioned deities.
Agreed.

Just because he didnt create it doesnt mean he cant. And by judging that the Elder Gods couldnt even stop (or didnt want to) Shao Khan when he invaded Earthrealm in MK3 i wouldnt say they are all that powerful. Yes they probably are the most powerful beings in the MKU, but they dont even compare with their respective counterparts of the Marvel universe. Rune Thor was up there when he gained those powers.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
@Metzos, well here's the thing you have to remember about EG's.

The Elder Gods did stop Kahn easily when they actually cared, they just don't want to be bothered half the time as they're neutral...so they are pretty powerful, if you read the wiki link I posted it explains their omnipotence and how they created the entire MKU eons ago...that's pretty powerful I'd say. Rune Thor was never near TOAA levels and each series really has as I mentioned their own version of God. DC it's the presence, Marvel it's TOAA and MK it's The Elder Gods. The only difference is being a video game rather then comic character, is you have less feats naturally due to how you're implemented. Comics come out monthly, sometimes weekly so you can do a lot and have unlimited time. Video games you have a limit and time line compared to comics.

But to me, creator of a universe is a creator of a universe. Rune Thor would have done so if he had the power to do so, example Superman Prime 1 Million isn't Presence level but is said to be the second most powerful thing in DCU or top 3 at least as he created his own universe and has all knowledge of the universe, Rune Thor isn't anywhere near him even.
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
Thor is way more experienced in the ways of battle and is way more powerful....just saying, Thor would whip that ass. Especially if we are talking about Thor being as strong as he is at this particular moment in time in the Marvel universe. :p
 

quandaghost

kung lao swag walker
well imma be honest this is so one sided its terrible. Thor could compete with a savage hulk on equal terms who has a base strength of 80 tons and can increase his strength depending on his rage. that's no easy feat. Raiden can hardly handle Shao Khan. Thor has beaten demons like Surtur, Raiden has electrocuted ice, and undead ninjas. Thor battled a guy with the power of 1000 white dwarfs all exploding at once, and barely survived. Raiden fought a guy who got punched in his chest by a regular guy, and needed the god's to help him. just sayin
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Raiden could kill Shao Kahn easily, he just jobbers for plot purposes...

EG Raiden murks Thor...

Normal versions, I just see as pointless