If you haven't learnt her cancels yet then go ahead and learn her. The annoying thing is when you learn her cancels and nrs suddenly decides to change the Timing. But they definitely are still doable offline and online. 112 wgc and b1 wgc are a bit thougher to learn but you'll get used to it.
Right, good to know. So what were all the threads and yt videos about after the last patch?
Delusion and hysteria
After 8.31 and before the hotfix it was definitely more than delusion and hysteria lol. But yeah it's worth to learn her trust me.
That was already stated as a bug, all the run cancels were messed up. I'm talking about the later 112 cancel nonsense
I don't get that as well imo the difference is not that bad. It's there but not that much. And if you haven't learnt the wgc pre patch like the OP you should be fine getting them down.
Do it once you see the bug come out. You have a couple frames to link this.
You're probably doing it too fast and overthinking it
it's kinda tricky at first but you'll get the hang of it. just as widowpuppy said wait until you see the bug and then you have a small window to do it.it's the same with f112wgc2 on block when you set the AI to reversal and try to jail it's about how fast you input 2 after the cancel and not only how fast you cancel your wasp grenade. you should first practise to get the wgc on the very first possible frame without trying it to link it into 212 because it feels different than f11 or f22 and if you just concentrate on trying to link 212 you'll end up not doing the wgc at all. after that it's just pressing 212 as soon as you start to run.
Last night I got like 5 out of 100 tries. I can do the f112wgc2 on block consistently but the 112wgc2 is killing me. I will continue trying for a while If I can't I'll switch to venomous.
Experiment with different timings, and time yourself off the animations instead of just trying to get a feel for it. I had the same struggle getting Liu Kangs F213, FBRC, F213 to jail after the patch. Eventually you will get it, but make sure you 1)Have the right inputs (no stray diagonals), 2)Are hitting the cancel appropriately (experiment with where you start up the cancel to hit it), and 3) are connecting your next string as soon as possible (check your stamina use against a recording of successful cancel strings).
that's weird since the timing of 112wgc212 on hit and f112wgc2 jail on block feel very similiar (for me at least). back then my problem was that I wasn't patient enough, did the cancel to early and nothing happened. imo the secret is to press 112df1, wait a bit until the bug comes out and THEN do the fast rc 212 motion and I get it 10/10. can you record a few tries? I'd like to see where your fault is.
Ok I can do the bug cancel but its the linking into 212 that I can't nail. The opponent is able to block it. There are very few times where I connect it. I'm guessing the run cancel after the bug has to be cancelled really fast into the 212 but the window seems sooo small compared to her other moves like f11 or f22.
That's because the window is smaller, it's the same timing as doing b1 wc 212. after you get the cancel you have to immediately slide your finger to 2
it seems like u gotta be pretty on point with the execution....don't see it being so reliable in an actual match...
Not as easy as f11~wc but it's still quite doable. I do it online.
It is reliable, and it's actually pretty easy to do. Like Tony said, you can even do F22 WC F11
Yes it's one of The easier cancels actually. Without it you'll have a was harder time Do well with her since Most of Time you Open up People it is with f22wgc.What's the Problem with it for you?
