RM Jonnitti
Hot Dog
Since it's become such an issue for this game, lets really seriously discuss this in depth and stop complaining. i really dont think the nerfs mean much because superman still with be a very good character. 5 frames is still pretty damn godlike for a super in a game where most character's fastest moves are 7 frames. it just takes off a list of a few things that he can't punish but whatever, it still has a lot of use. unless f2 whiffs now after breath (which wouldn't surprise me either way) i don think much will change from this character other than damage and meter build (which was universal) which is exactly how i wanted the character to be changed. I think he works perfectly with the current meta of the game like this.
let me preface this saying that im not the best player. i consider myself more of a theory fighter than anything and im open to people disagreeing with me. i think its important for a community to come together to solve issues with broken characters by their own hands, especially after the last patch.
With this being said, i still think hes going to be one of the most obnoxious characters for most players to fight against. he still has breath nonsense, he still has lasers and he still has retarded corner carry and huge corner combos. maybe they dont do 71% anymore, but im sure they will stil take away a good chunk of your health to the point where he only needs to hit you twice in order to kill you.
The other day at the break, I played KDZ and Shin Paulo in tournament, 2 superman players who play a different kind of superman. KDZ likes to stay in your face with f2 and threaten you with huge damage opportunities. Shin Paulo likes to play a more of a zoning game. The first thing i noticed right away is that if you stay right outside the range of f2, he doesn't really have much he can threaten you with. also, he doesn't seem to be very hard to counterzone, maybe this is because i play deathstroke, but whtever. i also dont feel threatened just walking up and blocking. all of his projectiles have startup up the ass and you can block on reaction or jump over the high laser on reaction during the startup. I felt the most successful way of approaching this match was to try to bait him to do f2 at a range where theres not much else he can do without getting blown up. maybe jump, but you can do all sorts of nonsense if you see him jump, dash under, d2 (maybe?), backdash, jump back normal and whatever else you can think of. also, if you sucesfully bait a f2 and get a knockdown, press the advantage as hard as you can and get him into any sort of vortex you have. superman's wakeups are pretty dogshit outside of super and if you think hes going to super you can block and punish, it cant be reacted to, you would have to read it. if you can manage to do this while staying out of the corner it seems like you really shouldnt lose.
the main thing is you dont want him to get his f23 breath pressure started. some characters its harder for than others, but sometimes you have to get creative. some characters id imagine have to take big risks against superman, like ares for example would teleport behind superman if he reads an f2 and punish now that he has a meterburn version which is faster. still it would be a huge risk but i can imagine him getting somethign pretty good out of that at least. maybe a d4 or something (just speculation).
anybody else who has a strong opinion on this topic respond. inb4 mad trolls.
let me preface this saying that im not the best player. i consider myself more of a theory fighter than anything and im open to people disagreeing with me. i think its important for a community to come together to solve issues with broken characters by their own hands, especially after the last patch.
With this being said, i still think hes going to be one of the most obnoxious characters for most players to fight against. he still has breath nonsense, he still has lasers and he still has retarded corner carry and huge corner combos. maybe they dont do 71% anymore, but im sure they will stil take away a good chunk of your health to the point where he only needs to hit you twice in order to kill you.
The other day at the break, I played KDZ and Shin Paulo in tournament, 2 superman players who play a different kind of superman. KDZ likes to stay in your face with f2 and threaten you with huge damage opportunities. Shin Paulo likes to play a more of a zoning game. The first thing i noticed right away is that if you stay right outside the range of f2, he doesn't really have much he can threaten you with. also, he doesn't seem to be very hard to counterzone, maybe this is because i play deathstroke, but whtever. i also dont feel threatened just walking up and blocking. all of his projectiles have startup up the ass and you can block on reaction or jump over the high laser on reaction during the startup. I felt the most successful way of approaching this match was to try to bait him to do f2 at a range where theres not much else he can do without getting blown up. maybe jump, but you can do all sorts of nonsense if you see him jump, dash under, d2 (maybe?), backdash, jump back normal and whatever else you can think of. also, if you sucesfully bait a f2 and get a knockdown, press the advantage as hard as you can and get him into any sort of vortex you have. superman's wakeups are pretty dogshit outside of super and if you think hes going to super you can block and punish, it cant be reacted to, you would have to read it. if you can manage to do this while staying out of the corner it seems like you really shouldnt lose.
the main thing is you dont want him to get his f23 breath pressure started. some characters its harder for than others, but sometimes you have to get creative. some characters id imagine have to take big risks against superman, like ares for example would teleport behind superman if he reads an f2 and punish now that he has a meterburn version which is faster. still it would be a huge risk but i can imagine him getting somethign pretty good out of that at least. maybe a d4 or something (just speculation).
anybody else who has a strong opinion on this topic respond. inb4 mad trolls.
