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1man3letters

1man3letters

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Zoidberg747 said:
Very well. I trust your judgement so just post what you think is wrong, and I will change it.
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hey zoid, sorry havnt been posting,been real sick,ill do kenshi,freddy and skarlet before talk about the rest, heres mileena fixed anyway for the momet


Sai
Up close blocked: blade spin
Up close whiffed: Blade charge or spin
Fullscreen blocked: EX Blade charge (during sai)
Fullscreen whiffed: EX blade charge unless Mileena teleport kicks or rolls
Up close high whiffed(Air): Blade charge or spin
Fullscreen high whiffed(Air): EX Blade charge

Neck Bite
spin or blade charge, -11 on block

Teleport kick
Blocked: B+3,1, blade charge or spin (B3,1 is risky incase of sai)
Blocked(ended with air sai): d2,spin,d1~special (on whiffed sai)

Ball Roll
Up close blocked: -46 on block, U+3, B+3,1,f4,chop chop
Fullscreen blocked: Same as above
 
1man3letters

1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
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heres skarlet

Up Slash (from Red Dash) - f4, spin ,charge
Down Slash (from Red Dash) - f4, b3, charge,slices
Red Slide - nothing on block but can try snuff with a charge or eat up the dash with chop chop
Up Slash - f4, spin ,charge
Down Slash - -f4, b3, charge,slices
Blood Ball - spin
Blood Drop - f4, spin ,slices ,charge
Dagger Toss - (upclose,uncanceled) spin
Air Dagger - charge high ad's,careful to watch for angled ones


Red Dash,Dual Up Slash - spin
Red Dash,Dual Down Slash - f4, b3, f2 ,charge
Dual Up Slash - spin
Dual Down Slash - b3, f4, f2 , slices, charge
Blood Stomp - f4, spin, charge, slices
Double Daggers (upclose,uncanceled) spin
Tri Air Dagger - ex charge through it


ps.might want to note on sektors ex tele,u can spin him after blocking it but its tight as it -7
 
1man3letters

1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
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hi zoid, got some items need fixing for ya (will do freddy/kenshi later 2day)

reptile,blocked dash.u cant b3 its -15 on block,b3 is 17
kano,choke is -1 so is unpunisihable, kano ball can also be punished with f4/b3 combos
scorpions takedown is safe
sindel,u cant punish a block setup with charge,its -7,charge is 10
nightwolf,shoulder is netural on block
rain,roundhouse and aqua splash have to much pushback for spin
sonya,kiss only punished by spin,same with upclose blocked rings
jax,cant punish blocked punch with charge,overhead smash is safe nd so is gotcha grab

theres few more things im a bit iffy about will check when i get the time
 
Zoidberg747

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
1man3letters said:
hi zoid, got some items need fixing for ya (will do freddy/kenshi later 2day)

reptile,blocked dash.u cant b3 its -15 on block,b3 is 17
kano,choke is -1 so is unpunisihable, kano ball can also be punished with f4/b3 combos
scorpions takedown is safe
sindel,u cant punish a block setup with charge,its -7,charge is 10
nightwolf,shoulder is netural on block
rain,roundhouse and aqua splash have to much pushback for spin
sonya,kiss only punished by spin,same with upclose blocked rings
jax,cant punish blocked punch with charge,overhead smash is safe nd so is gotcha grab

theres few more things im a bit iffy about will check when i get the time
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Thanks for the info, will update it now
 
1man3letters

1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
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dunno if forgot but they jax data is still wrong from data i gave u
sektors ex tele data was not added
also mentioned this before but alot of the places u have "full/free combo" baraka's 2 wont have time to hit so if u could fix that,it be handy for all new rakas
 
Miss Kanzuki

Miss Kanzuki

*KANZUKI GOON SQUAD*
Good shit!
Some of this stuff I've noticed myself in trial and error (and tallied up a lot of losses along the way), so I'm glad those responsible in compiling this info did so. Just from reading this I can tell that I lost a lot of fights due to my ill usage of using the blade spark when it was too risky. It can help the fact that it's slow because it kinda mind fucks with the opponents but for the most part it seems to be ill-advised.
 
1man3letters

1man3letters

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yes it really helps to know the right tool for the right situation.

just noticed i forgot to do freddy/kenshi like said i would,oops! ill get on that
 
1man3letters

1man3letters

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sorry i kept forgetting bout this zoid:
heres kenshi,
Spirit Charge - just frame charge(very tight),can punish on whiff with charge
Rising Karma - charge,whiff punish with charge also
Telekinetic Slash - nothing (just frame spin at touching distance)
Tele-Flurry - nothing
Spirit Vengeance - +7 on block
Karma Eruption - nothing
Telekinetic Blade - charge (best to do a dash then charge incase opp backdashes) or ex charge
Tele-Beatdown - nothing
 
Flagg

Flagg

Noob
1man3letters said:
hi zoid, got some items need fixing for ya (will do freddy/kenshi later 2day)

reptile,blocked dash.u cant b3 its -15 on block,b3 is 17
kano,choke is -1 so is unpunisihable, kano ball can also be punished with f4/b3 combos
scorpions takedown is safe
sindel,u cant punish a block setup with charge,its -7,charge is 10
nightwolf,shoulder is netural on block
rain,roundhouse and aqua splash have to much pushback for spin
sonya,kiss only punished by spin,same with upclose blocked rings
jax,cant punish blocked punch with charge,overhead smash is safe nd so is gotcha grab

theres few more things im a bit iffy about will check when i get the time
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How do you punish a blocked Reptile elbow with Baraka? God I hate that move so much...
 
Mosp

Mosp

Noob
Some things I noticed about NW's section:

Hatchet is not full combo punished on block it is at -6
Choke can only be punished on whiff since on block is it at -2
I assume Spirit Charge is his Shoulder which can't be punished on block since it's at either 0 or -3 (depending on distance) but you can add that it can be neutral ducked and full combo punished.

Nice guide btw :)
 
1man3letters

1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
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Mosp said:
Some things I noticed about NW's section:

Hatchet is not full combo punished on block it is at -6
Choke can only be punished on whiff since on block is it at -2
I assume Spirit Charge is his Shoulder which can't be punished on block since it's at either 0 or -3 (depending on distance) but you can add that it can be neutral ducked and full combo punished.

Nice guide btw :)
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wow howd id not see the info before (tarkatan facepalm!!!)

zoid said he was doing a big clean up of the 1st post so all should be sorted soon, thanks for pointin it out man
 
1man3letters

1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
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Zoidberg747 said:
Just did a Big Ass edit on all the frame data. I apologize for so many of it being incorrect, but most should be fixed now. Props to Somberness for making it a WHOLE lot easier.
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good stuff zoidberg

just a note about my kenshi info i gave you,
was talking about just on block,
on the non ex moves that i have "nothing" (teleslaps(21frame) and downsword(25frame) the startup of them moves is slower than the amount of frames it takes for blade charge to go its full distance(14frames),same with ex charge(18frames) so on a good read you can punish kenshi for zoning without blocking the attacks, just like with punishing the whiffed shoulder.

but also be aware the recovery frames on the whiffed charge if your trying to get through kenshi's zoning with charge if charge ended up not hitting


also yea somberness is a legend
 
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