Match-up Discussion Anti-Kabal stuff

[Prinz]

I would really like to record this, but I don't have a decent recording device. Anyway, here goes, maybe someone can shoot this movie.
This strategy is still a theory because I don't have a human Kabal to work with, but it is 100%. First, this is viable for the most part when Kabal is in the 3/4 of the arena, close to the corner. What you do is hit him with anything trying to end in b32 or 23f2 and cancel these strings in en-straight rang. The first rang will go over Kabal, the second comes back later, so it negates the invincible frames of any of Kabal's wake-up options. Right after Jade recovers from the en-rang you flash and hold block and then react to Kabal's follow-ups:
- wake-up dash/en-dash - hits your block + gets hit by the returning rang + jip, b1 full combo punish;
- wake-up saw/en-saw - goes through your flash + gets hit by the returning rang + jip, b1 full combo punish;
- wake-up overhead/en-overhead (no reason to do because he will be far away, but you never know who you play) - gets hit by the returning rang + jip, b1 full combo punish;
- blocks low - is drawn towards you while you jip, b1 full combo punish;
- rolls back - gets in the corner and no matter what he does after he gets hit by the returning rang and you follow-up from there with a corner combo;
- delays wake-up - you have full time to staff-overhead or approach with flashkick.
This can be applied to a lot of the roster, but it has nuances, like you have to block low for SZ and Reptile or you can just jip no matter what with Ermac.
Keep in mind that you don't have to always flash after en-rang (only for Kabal, Noob and Sindel as they have projectile wake-ups), but flashing is something you have to learn to do consistently + it adds a lot to the meter (2% of a bar LoL).

 

[Prinz]

Stuffing Kabal's wake-up game:
1. shadow kick knockdown
2. dash
3. flash
4. step back
5. b1
Flash avoids wake-up saw, b1 stuffs all his wake-ups, even armored dash.

You can also flash where you are and do shadow kick which will knock him down out of his dash, but needs timing.

 

[CompletelyJaded]

Somebody please vid-confirm these?

 

[RTM2004]

If only Jade had the ability to Flash in the air XD

Kabal's projectile zoning is not a problem for Jade but up close his pressure and his Ex Nomad Dash beats her.

 

[TakeAChance]

Prinz, I will test this and post a video. Good find if it works

 

[Prinz]

Prinz, I will test this and post a video. Good find if it works

Then test Skarlet, Sonya, Sektor, Rain and Kung Lao. All of their wake-ups get stuffed by b1 (Sonya must be close and Kung Lao must be at range), unless they wake-up with armor.

 

[Prinz]

Another good setup for Kabal's wake-ups when he tech rolls: shadow kick knockdow, dash, flash, SO. Flash will prevent you from getting by the saw and SO will go over both dashes and won't get hit by his overhead special. This can give you a SO combo if he does a saw or overhead on wake-up.

 

[Prinz]

b32 beats dashes as well. So flash-b32 is a good anti-wake-up as well because you will hit him out of anything if he continues.

 

[Prinz]

Another non-damagebale anti-wake-up setup is flash-d3. D3 stuffs his dashes or makes them whiff, it also stuffs/makes whiff his overhead special.

 

[CompletelyJaded]

Standing 3 seems to beat dash too if timed right.

 

[Prinz]

Another good anti-wake-up setup is 3(blocked)4(hit)-SK, flash 2-SO... The SK will go under Kabal and the 2 will stuff/punish all his wake-ups even on roll-out. The good thing is SO won't come out unless 2 connects, so if he stays on the ground you'll be safe.

Also, after watching MLG I noticed a very good spacing strategy from Dizzy which he used with Johnny, but it didn't quite favor him since JC's sweet spot is in the face. But for Jade it's awesome. And that is the distance from where Kabal's b2 out of reach. Somewhere between jump distance and outside of sweep range. From this distance Kabal's only choise are NDCs, since iAGBs and Saws are flashable. Continuous flash, u3/b32/SK/SO pressure and keeping at this distance is the strategy.
All Jade's tools are good, but to prevent getting hit with ND d3's should also be used, they will also stuff the ND or make it whiff and send Kabal at full-screen.