About F4

[shinshistu]

Is there any good use to this? I know it can counter some wake ups, but should i even use it against wake ups?

 

[Faded Dreams V]

I think someone once used it on me to make Liu Kang's low projectile whiff. >.>

 

[Eh SnOwY]

Sometimes it goes over D4's and d3's if done at the right moment

 

[DanCock]

Wow didn't know about f 4 uses thanks


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[BEENEEWEENEES]

ATL Batman used to use a fun set-up

combo xx exhat f4 and then instantly teleport 1 to catch em if they teched. surprisingly effective.

 

[gdf]

McFly has a video on this. I will try and find it.

 

[gdf]

ETC Mcfly Video

Starting around 8:24

 

[SunnyD]

People always think its highly negative on block when its actually neutral. I find that if i spin right after i usually hit them out of a counterattack.

 

[PPJ]

it can also be used in corner combos for example

2,1 spin, NJP, f4, 3~EX Hat, jumpkick~divekick, 1, 2,4 1+3~2 45%

 

[ETC Mcfly]

ATL Batman used to use a fun set-up

combo xx exhat f4 and then instantly teleport 1 to catch em if they teched. surprisingly effective.

People always think its highly negative on block when its actually neutral. I find that if i spin right after i usually hit them out of a counterattack.

what you say works very well .. and also "Tele EX" now discovering that using this combo is very good .. example:

2.1 spin, NJP, f+4 + Teleport EX (recommend using button 2 and you can then do a reset anti-wakeup if given the situation or just keep attacking with Button 2 + mixup .. (F4 in the middle of the screen and the character lockdown leave much time to drop to teleport).

 

[shinshistu]

what you say works very well .. and also "Tele EX" now discovering that using this combo is very good .. example:

2.1 spin, NJP, f+4 + Teleport EX (recommend using button 2 and you can then do a reset anti-wakeup if given the situation or just keep attacking with Button 2 + mixup .. (F4 in the middle of the screen and the character lockdown leave much time to drop to teleport).

its a mix up but why would i waste damage for a mix up? wouldn't it be better to ex hat into 24 finisher?

 

[UsedForGlue]

Has it's uses, but it never really takes priority over anything.

Never ever do it from a JIP, because if the JIP hits, you are dropping a whole combo, but if you catch 24 Hat, then JIP is viable enough as the opponent is blocking, and its 0, but again, it takes no priority over JIP 112.

It works well after a wiffed dive kick from knocking down the opponent after 24 overhead. Sometimes it's cool after 112, 11, then into 24 or 21.

But if you are going to do anything gimmickish or cool, then from a JIP, do B1 and hit confirm into F1 Spin, just go into 112 pressure.

 

[SunnyD]

...but if you catch 24 Hat...

isnt 24 ex hat stance dependent like 24 spin?

 

[ETC Mcfly]

its a mix up but why would i waste damage for a mix up? wouldn't it be better to ex hat into 24 finisher?

I make a video for a better understanding of the idea ....

 

[shinshistu]

I make a video for a better understanding of the idea ....

Thank you. For trying to make a video, but ending in 24 grab wouldn't you have better spacing and positioning. Also, it does more damage. Because of F4 that's 1% - 5 % lost and it is really important when it comes to the end of a round. It's a mixup, but imo you have better positioning out of 24 grab. In the 24 grab you have a footsies game and you are in +8 frames

 

[ETC Mcfly]

Thank you. For trying to make a video, but ending in 24 grab wouldn't you have better spacing and positioning. Also, it does more damage. Because of F4 that's 1% - 5 % lost and it is really important when it comes to the end of a round. It's a mixup, but imo you have better positioning out of 24 grab. In the 24 grab you have a footsies game and you are in +8 frames

If you friend I very much agree that removes Damage even more Do "Dive Kick" and then 2.4, throw .. but if you're in a situation of pressure you can run teleport and if you successfully do a RESET and continue beating. or just attack .. as directed makes a video for you to see

 

[shinshistu]

If you friend I very much agree that removes Damage even more Do "Dive Kick" and then 2.4, throw .. but if you're in a situation of pressure you can run teleport and if you successfully do a RESET and continue beating. or just attack .. as directed makes a video for you to see

I love the idea of that,but what if you had/building xray couldn't I pressure with that instead wasting a bar. However, kl builds meter really fast.