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Growing numbers of Injustice and its impact on the community

zachavoc

zachavoc

Noob
Right now we are seeing a rise in stream numbers for tournaments and this is a great thing people love the game and they love watching the game as well. Something that perfect legend said on twitter got me thinking because I'm a fan of league of legends as well and one thing that they have that we don't really have right now is that the top players don't stream a whole lot. I understand some can't but in LoL that's how the fans stay connected to them in between tourneys and as of right now all we really have is tourneys. We have some occasional casuals, pl streams some and art streams some as well. But personally I would love to see the cd bros, tom brady, reo, 16 bit, pl and pig of the hut streaming a lot. This would help with the fans getting to see their favorite players more often. This could also develop more rivalries does everyone remember when CDjr and pl had their rivalry right around MLG in MK. I do I was glued to that tourney just waiting to see if PL or CDjr would pop off after. We the fans need the hype and the rivalries it makes the game feel like good and evil. Cause I was a fan of PL i looked at CDjr as the evil villain and my friend who liked CDjr saw it the other way around. But back to my point I think that if the best of the best start streaming more I think that it will help with the downtime between tourneys and the game could keep the hype going from tourneys to individual streams. For instance could you imagine seeing Tom Brady get second place at ECT then he goes and streams him in the lab and sparring REO and picking up new characters then goes to the next tourney and wins with all the hard work and effort that he put in. For the fans I think that would be amazing to watch and the fan would feel more connected to the player and how much it meant for the player to win that.

Thank you for the read and sorry if I rambled too much and got off topic
 
Critical-Limit

Critical-Limit

Apprentice
I'm not that way, but I see what you're saying.

There is a reason reality shows make so much money.

I personally dislike drama, I'd rather just see 2 dudes duke it out for who's the best. Bro Hug > into handshake congratulations.



Sometimes having an asshole helps the scene too...

I mean Idra at the start of Starcraft 2 was known for his bad manner, but because of his bad manner everyone knew who he was, and often times watch his matches more than peopel better than him, just because of his saltiness when he loses.
 
zachavoc

zachavoc

Noob
Critical-Limit said:
I'm not that way, but I see what you're saying.

There is a reason reality shows make so much money.

I personally dislike drama, I'd rather just see 2 dudes duke it out for who's the best. Bro Hug > into handshake congratulations.



Sometimes having an asshole helps the scene too...

I mean Idra at the start of Starcraft 2 was known for his bad manner, but because of his bad manner everyone knew who he was, and often times watch his matches more than peopel better than him, just because of his saltiness when he loses.
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Exactly and I don't mean players necessarily being mean to one another but like when PL and CD had their rivalry it was a "gentleman's" rivalry with no real name calling just saying hey PL I'm coming for you next tourney was good.

Wouldn't you like to see the CD bro's streaming and sparring each other and the brotherly rivalry there I think that would be pretty hype too.
 
VGB Joe Kerr

VGB Joe Kerr

Insane Brilliance
I feel you there, but I also believe that the community should support everyone as a whole. You may be the best grundy right now, we don't know that. If you started streaming people should watch you play too. So if one of the more known members aren't streaming there are guys that can never get to tournaments that stream or guys that are really good and never win. It's nice that art gets 7k viewers when he's on but when he isn't there's a lot more to watch. It would keep us close as a community if we supported everyone that's trying to give some type of content to the community and not just the "top" guys. I stream sometimes, and I'd love to stream for those who can't get a decent capture of their game play. If no one is willing to watch, then it makes me less willing to set up and endure playing on a 5x5 box on my tv/monitor to try to put on a show. We should not shoulder everything on the guys that have established themselves. If everybody is putting them on a pedestal, so to speak, then nobody will ever rise up to their level imo.
 
VGB Joe Kerr

VGB Joe Kerr

Insane Brilliance
nah, i'd rather watch high school and college personally. for the majority of them it's more about the sport than the endorsements.
 
Critical-Limit

Critical-Limit

Apprentice
VGB Joe Kerr said:
nah, i'd rather watch high school and college personally. for the majority of them it's more about the sport than the endorsements.
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I wasn't talking about you personally.

I personally don't watch pros streams or regular guy streams.

I'm talking about the majority.

NFL makes big bucks, High school does not. The reason for that is because NFL has more "hype" and following.



the reason you would watch a local high school game more is only because you know people in the game probably, and want to watch/cheer them on.

That's tghe same as streaming. I sometimes watch my friends play games, but that's only cuz I know them.
 
zachavoc

zachavoc

Noob
VGB Joe Kerr said:
I feel you there, but I also believe that the community should support everyone as a whole. You may be the best grundy right now, we don't know that. If you started streaming people should watch you play too. So if one of the more known members aren't streaming there are guys that can never get to tournaments that stream or guys that are really good and never win. It's nice that art gets 7k viewers when he's on but when he isn't there's a lot more to watch. It would keep us close as a community if we supported everyone that's trying to give some type of content to the community and not just the "top" guys. I stream sometimes, and I'd love to stream for those who can't get a decent capture of their game play. If no one is willing to watch, then it makes me less willing to set up and endure playing on a 5x5 box on my tv/monitor to try to put on a show. We should not shoulder everything on the guys that have established themselves. If everybody is putting them on a pedestal, so to speak, then nobody will ever rise up to their level imo.
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Exactly I know what you mean. I try to watch when everyone streams. Yeah but I think with the high stream numbers that if the players streamed more and promoted it more I think they could get more viewers. I don't want this to sound like I'm calling the players out because I'm not. I'm just talking in terms that I would like more content out there and seeing some players prepare for tourneys and stuff would be captivating tv
 
zachavoc

zachavoc

Noob
GGA 16 Bit said:
GGA streams a lot, at least once a week. We never have that many viewers though. Seems like no one wants to just see matches anymore.
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This is true to some degree in terms of people don't just wanna see matches. When you liked wrestling didn't you like the rivalries, the new blood coming into the scene. Its like that in anything you watch. I'm a college football fan and I love my team and hate my rival. So maybe you can see what I mean.
 
arNu

arNu

Df1 Specialist
I'd love to see more people streaming fighting games in general, and I'd like to personally stream as well. I have a small fg scene in Kelowna, Canada and streaming some of our sessions could be cool.

But streaming costs a lot of money. Good internet, a good streaming computer, and a capture device. Far too much money for me to spend at this time sadly. This is probably the case with many top players, some stream, but not many.
I think in the next few years console streaming will become a lot more accessible though so we'll see an increase in the number of streams no doubt.
 
CrimsonShadow

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
GGA 16 Bit said:
GGA streams a lot, at least once a week. We never have that many viewers though. Seems like no one wants to just see matches anymore.
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Bit I think it's just a factor of a few things:

1) A lot of times it's not advertised very much when you stream -- the 'OG's know that you do, but even for people that have been around its easy to forget.

2) #1 is made even more important by the fact that there's a litany of streams now. I mean, it's wild -- on any given night, there might be 3-4 IGAU streams with a few hundred viewers on up.

Now, there's 8WayRun from The Break on Tuesdays, followed by OBS, Next Level Battle Circuit on Wednesdays, Followed by Wednesday Night Fights, VSM and also CoCo stuff on Thursdays alongside GGA, etc.

3) A lot more of the newer people will know who you guys are after UFGT. Hopefully someone will give the weekly a plug, because it's a good opportunity to let people know what's going on.

In any case, as always I have a ton of love for you guys, and I think that if people are reminded and brought up to date they'll watch. GGA is a fantastic crew and only seems to get better with time.
 
LEGEND

LEGEND

YES!
GGA 16 Bit said:
GGA streams a lot, at least once a week. We never have that many viewers though. Seems like no one wants to just see matches anymore.
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i always find it strange that when Arturo streams online matches he gets hundreds of viewers but when you guys stream good offline matches you only get like 40

Pig Of The Hut said:
Something tells me people will pay more attention after UFGT
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hopefully so. I assume people outside the MK community don't know too much about GGA
 
GGA HAN

GGA HAN

Galloping Ghost Arcade
CrimsonShadow said:
Bit I think it's just a factor of a few things:

1) A lot of times it's not advertised very much when you stream -- the 'OG's know that you do, but even for people that have been around its easy to forget.

2) #1 is made even more important by the fact that there's a litany of streams now. I mean, it's wild -- on any given night, there might be 3-4 IGAU streams with a few hundred viewers on up.

Now, there's 8WayRun from The Break on Tuesdays, followed by OBS, Next Level Battle Circuit on Wednesdays, Followed by Wednesday Night Fights, VSM and also CoCo stuff on Thursdays alongside GGA, etc.

3) A lot more of the newer people will know who you guys are after UFGT. Hopefully someone will give the weekly a plug, because it's a good opportunity to let people know what's going on.

In any case, as always I have a ton of love for you guys, and I think that if people are reminded and brought up to date they'll watch. GGA is a fantastic crew and only seems to get better with time.
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point # 1 is entirely true, I usually don't even put it on the events page here on TYM. And I should, its easy enough; I'll start doing this more.

And the rest is also true, and I've considered trying to stream on different days, but other scenes move around their stuff and then we're right back where we started. We used to stream every thursdays awhile back, but then we switched to Tuesdays to not "compete" with VSM's stream. Then OBS came out, and everyone watches that...so I really think its a matter of what people want to see. If you want gameplay on tuesdays, watch us...if you don't, watch OBS.

And you've always been a great supporterof us here at GGA, CrimsonShadow. I remember that pizza you got us when Brady was in town awhile back; I don't forget free pizza 'cause I'm a big guy. lol
 
SLy

SLy

Warrior
Argue about whos top 10 lol.. That seems like what everybody is only interested in now and days lol
 
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