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Predict the MK 11 Metacritic Score

Hostile_18

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42.
User reviews will be 7 to 8 mixed but those are irrelevant to me. Critic reviews will be very strong, and I think MK11 will average above a 90 on metacritic for the first time ever. People who actually know how to objectively review a game will see how brilliant MK11 is.

So I'll go with 91
Objectively speaking I wouldn't rate any game with so many modes tied to online with mobile like grinding in a full price retail game above 90.

Its so fustrating because the core game is so good. NRS could have had the highest scoring fighting game of all time on their hands... I hope the extra revenue is worth losing that and eroding customer good will.

Shirt term profit instead of looking at the long term. Im under no illusions this is probably WBs doing given their history.
 

Hostile_18

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42.
So far the user review score is 3.4, but reading through the user reviews it seems like most of them are just there to do the typical trollish political review bombing.
As much as I personally love the game I can't blame them. There have been a few important miss steps and its important they affect NRS/WB financially as thats the only way its going to result in a better game for us all.

It's a shame Mortal Kombat for how good it is also another controversial game along with the likes of Shadow of War, Battlefront 2, Fallout 76 etc.

We live in a day and age where God of War can release as a full package and be profitable. Horizon can have one full expansion offering amazing value for money yet WB/NRS would have you believe Mortal Kombat despite selling millions, been available on more platforms and having season passes also need mobile like grinding, pre-order characters and microtransactions to be profitable...

The SJW debate... well where I come down on that is that as far as outfits are concerned there should be variety and choice to keep everyone happy. Honour their legacy while also paving the way for the artistic direction they want to take it in. Comments such as "if people don't like it, I'm not sorry" don't help, especially when its a change from previous installments who's success allowed you to make the installment your making now.

Like i say I do love the game, but it would be disingenuous to pretend they don't exist and arn't a blemish on an amazing product.

Oh and btw it's on 83 critic wise. I might win my own thread ;)
 
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Slymind

Noob
So far the user review score is 3.4, but reading through the user reviews it seems like most of them are just there to do the typical trollish political review bombing.
The MTX was this game's undoing in terms of reviews, they shot themselves in the foot because of that.
 

Marlow

Premium Supporter
Premium Supporter
The MTX was this game's undoing in terms of reviews, they shot themselves in the foot because of that.
I guess? I think it's an overreaction to give the game a 0 or 1 out of ten simply because of the MTX though.
 

Hostile_18

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42.
The MTX was this game's undoing in terms of reviews, they shot themselves in the foot because of that.
WB really are among the worst in this regard. We've already been through this with Shadow of War which resulted in the developer having to make serious changes.

Since Battlefront I'd hoped the landscape had changed but it looks like WB are always pushing to see how much they can get away with. NRS should part ways with them I'd imagine loads of publishers would want them amongst their portfolio and treat them much better (apart from arguably in marketing).
 

Slymind

Noob
I guess? I think it's an overreaction to give the game a 0 or 1 out of ten simply because of the MTX though.
It sure is, user reviews have a lot of biterness, the game sure as heck does not deserve those scores regarless of the MTX, put in also the ones that want naked characters and the ones salty about a 30 seconds harmless arcade ending.

The pro reviewers however are pointing the good and the bad, still, this game could'be easily around 90+ if it not were for the greed.
 

Marlow

Premium Supporter
Premium Supporter
My favorite review site for videogames is The AV Club, so if they review MK11 I'll probably put more weight on that review. Other than my own personal review, obviously.
 

Prateek Shekhar

LeggoMyEggo
NRS shouldn't have made it political in the first place. It never ends well.
Everything in life is political. You can find politics in the old games if you look hard enough. This idea that games now are political is stupid gamergate bullshit.
You killed nazis and Hitler in Wolfenstein 3D in 1992. You know why that's not controversial? Because everyone knows Nazis are bad.
The only reason why these /pol/Sargon/Jordan Peterson dickriding kids today think Jax wanting to end slavery is a blemish on this game is because they think equality is some kind of white genocide.

Fuck everyone who cries about woke politics in video games or women being dressed appropriately. Would I like if the women had their tits out? Sure. Do I not like the game because they don't? No.
 

SaSSolino

Soul Stealing Loyalist
Everything in life is political. You can find politics in the old games if you look hard enough. This idea that games now are political is stupid gamergate bullshit.
You killed nazis and Hitler in Wolfenstein 3D in 1992. You know why that's not controversial? Because everyone knows Nazis are bad.
The only reason why these /pol/Sargon/Jordan Peterson dickriding kids today think Jax wanting to end slavery is a blemish on this game is because they think equality is some kind of white genocide.

Fuck everyone who cries about woke politics in video games or women being dressed appropriately. Would I like if the women had their tits out? Sure. Do I not like the game because they don't? No.
You're talking like they didn't state a "we know, we don't care" afterwards. That's making it political.

Skarlet's redesign can be political for some, but it's arguable and most people taking political stances against it were even seen as foolish by some. Just look at a couple of old political threads on this forum. Then they decided to take a stance themselves, and that was their mistake in my opinion.
 

Prateek Shekhar

LeggoMyEggo
I don't know who said "We know, we don't care" because I wasn't following this nontroversy.
Skarlet in MK9 was a stripper who drenched herself in blood instead of champagne. Perhaps 'sex sells' was a mantra still true in 2011, but we've seen enough examples in today's day and age where you can be successful without catering to the lowest common denominator.

There are games like Senran Kagura or Dead or Alive that still rely on tits and ass to sell copies, but because that's their niche, and they have little going for them outside of that. MK is too big and too good to need that. 'm not judging people who buy those games. I own a couple of them myself. But if it's fine if your favorite franchise matures with the times. If the lack of tits bothers people enough to leave low user reviews, perhaps they were fans for the wrong reasons.
 

Prateek Shekhar

LeggoMyEggo

WOKE SJW COMPANIES RUIN GAMES AGAIN MORAL KOMBAT AMIRITE? SUBSCRIBE TO MY PATREON!

Meanwhile people like this and their community aren't even fair weather fans. They don't give a shit about Mortal Kombat. They don't even play fighting games. Can't do 3 hit combos to save their lives. But love shitposting, making reactionary videos and leaving bad reviews to circlejerk each other in their echo chamber about how gamers are being oppressed by blue haired feminists.

GAMERS RISE UP!
 

Hostile_18

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42.
Hmm i find it strange how some fans don't mind if the more sexier outfits go or that the men get treated differently but would you say the same if the violence level was to drastically go down next game?

What makes sexual elements bad in 2019 but hyper level of violence completely fine? If that was alot less violence in the next game, and we questioned it would that make us not really fans of the game in the first place?

No one has yet thankfully, but just to reitirate no reasonable is asking for MK 9 (or worse levels) rather just a middle ground or player choice though a wide variety of costumes. I have just seen in other threads its easy to just take the most exteme user opinion that everyone is asking for characters to be in underwear, the vast, vast majority are not :).
 

LeoNatan

Noob
Hmm i find it strange how some fans don't mind if the more sexier outfits go or that the men get treated differently but would you say the same if the violence level was to drastically go down next game?

What makes sexual elements bad in 2019 but hyper level of violence completely fine? If that was alot less violence in the next game, and we questioned it would that make us not really fans of the game in the first place?

No one has yet thankfully, but just to reitirate no reasonable is asking for MK 9 (or worse levels) rather just a middle ground or player choice though a wide variety of costumes. I have just seen in other threads its easy to just take the most exteme user opinion that everyone is asking for characters to be in underwear, the vast, vast majority are not :).
Sex-negative feminism. The true feminism roots were sex-positive—the woman's body is her own and is freed from the man's control. Women are free to express themselves as they see fit. If they want to bear their body, all the power to them. Enter third-wave sex-negative feminism, where ugly women in gender studies blame any sexuality on the male gaze, rather than on the woman's free sexuality, which in turn, ironically, takes control from the women and gives it back to the men, as evident here in this game.

I like the art design. But anyone with more than one brain cell can't deny that there are double standards. Men are bearing their chests, while women are covered fully (I think Sonia has the most "revealing" training gear). That's ridiculous. In one of the interviews, they claimed women would not go to battle in bikinis. I agree. But men wouldn't go naked either. Shao Kahn, konqueror of realms, has no armor, entire torso is exposed. But a woman showing skin is not realistic. Why the double standard?
 
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Pizza

Thrill Kill
I just found out that right now the game has 52% positive reviews in Steam, putting it on the "mixed" cathegory

smh
 

Nickolaidas

Agent of Chaosrealm
Men are bearing their chests, while women are covered fully (I think Sonia has the most "revealing" training gear). That's ridiculous. In one of the interviews, they claimed women would not go to battle in bikinis. I agree. But men wouldn't go naked either. Shao Kahn, konqueror of realms, has no armor, entire torso is exposed. But a woman showing skin is not realistic. Why the double standard?
For the same reason men are topless in summer beaches while women wear bikinis. Western society (thanks to Christianism) has trained the human mind to believe that needless exposure of female skin is a sin, it's provocative and must be prevented (same goes for Muslims - which makes sense since their religion began as a spin-off of the Hebrew God) . As a result, anyone who uses constant exposure of female skin is not taken seriously by people who agree with those standards of western society and is shunned. So if you want to blame someone, blame the Catholic and Orthodox Christian churches as well as the Κoran. Not NRS for becoming less rebellious and being told by Warner to 'mature' their art style in order not to be ridiculed by critics like they do with the DoA devs.


As for those complaints of MK and all 'SJW boot licking games', ask yourself this: If Ed Boon came out today and said on twitter that NRS will never put another gay male character into an MK game, do you think anyone here on these forums would bat an eye or go apeshit about 'NRS supporting alt-right attitude', 'freedom of expression' and the like? No. Because straight males don't want and don't care about gay males. But straight males do care about titilation, so when NRS cock-blocks them by removing stripper Sonya, they lose their minds. The argument that some posters here or on GAF make about freedom of expression is laughable, because they don't really care about freedom of expression. They care about the MK series keep catering to their eye-candy needs.

There's a double standard, alright. Just not the one you say (or the one they publicly stated). It was never about realism. It was about NRS wanting to be taken more seriously - or WB ordering NRS to be more 'respectful' towards the Western standards of the female body because NRS attitude now reflects upon WB.
 
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