Time to Pool Our Efforts- Universal MU Listing

[Eldriken]

im intrigued by how she loses to darkseid

It's for Superman, not Starfire.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

It's for Superman, not Starfire.

I see, could've sworn it said star fire maybe he edited it

 

[Yoaks]

Wonder Woman

Aquaman: 5-5
Atrocitus: 5-5
Bane: 6-4
Batman: 5-5
Black Adam: 5-5
Black Canary: 7-3
Blue Beetle: 5-5
Brainiac: 6-4
Captain Cold: 5-5
Catwoman: 5-5
Cheetah: 6-4
Cyborg: 5-5
Darkseid: 6-4
Deadshot: 4-6
Dr. Fate: 5-5
Firestorm: 5-5 (Need to play more)
Flash: 6-4
Gorilla Grodd: 7-3
Green Arrow: No idea
Green Lantern: 4-6
Harley Quinn: 6-4
The Joker: 5-5 (Need to play more)
Poison Ivy: 5-5 (Need to play more)
Robin: 6-4
Scarecrow: 6-4
Supergirl: 5-5
Superman: 6-4
Swamp Thing: 5-5
Red Hood: 5-5
Sub-Zero: 6-4
Starfire: 5-5
Black Manta: No idea
Raiden: No idea

Winning: 11
Even: 16
Losing: 2
No idea: 3

 

[Tweedy]

I see, could've sworn it said star fire maybe he edited it

If a post is edited it'll say "last edited" at the bottom right.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

If a post is edited it'll say "last edited" at the bottom right.

Ok I guess I'm just dumb then

 

[Ronnok]

Gorilla Grodd

Aquaman: 4-6
Atrocitus: 4-6* (Dex-Starr Dependant)
Bane: 5-5
Batman: 4-6
Black Adam: 4-6
Black Canary: 4-6
Blue Beetle: 5-5
Brainiac: 5-5
Captain Cold: 4-6
Catwoman: 4-6
Cheetah: 5-5
Cyborg: 5-5
Darkseid: TF
Deadshot: 4-6
Dr. Fate: 5-5
Firestorm: 5-5
Flash: 4-6
Gorilla Grodd: 5-5
Green Arrow: 5-5
Green Lantern: 4-6
Harley Quinn: 4-6
The Joker: 6-4
Poison Ivy: 4-6
Robin: 5-5
Scarecrow: 4-6
Supergirl: 3-7
Superman: 4-6
Swamp Thing: 6-4
Wonder Woman: 4-6
Red Hood: 4-6
Sub-Zero: 4-6
Starfire: 4-6
Black Manta: 4-6
Raiden: 4-6
Hellboy: no idea

These are my numbers. Flame as you wish boys and girls. *Holds up shield*

EDIT 1: I put 10-0 on Gorilla Grodd as a previous joke. Disregard.

Bane 5-5? I always thought that was one of his worst MU’s just because he can armour through all of grodd strings, and stampede cancels don’t matter because armour.

 

[Daemantalo]

Bane 5-5? I always thought that was one of his worst MU’s just because he can armour through all of grodd strings, and stampede cancels don’t matter because armour.

My mistake. You're correct. Bane is a solid 4-6. I wasn't taking into account some of his stronger buttons and the armor capabilities on trait. Was more putting Grodd in the same category as he, as they both want to get their opponents in the corner or in the vortex to pump out big dammy. Grodd to me at the time also had the better mobility (to stay out of the corner from Bane) along with the better pokes. Was dead wrong though and I've changed my mind after trading some matches with a friend.

 

[Jugghead]

Batman

Aquaman: 4-6
Atrocitus: 6-4
Bane: 7-3
Batman: 5-5
Black Adam: 5-5
Black Canary: 6-4
Blue Beetle: 5-5
Brainiac: 6-4
Captain Cold: 5-5
Catwoman: 5-5
Cheetah: 7-3
Cyborg: 5-5
Darkseid: 5-5
Deadshot: 4-6
Dr. Fate: 5-5
Firestorm: 6-4
Flash: 6-4
Gorilla Grodd: 7-3
Green Arrow: 4-6
Green Lantern: 5-5
Harley Quinn: 4-6
The Joker: 6-4
Poison Ivy: 5-5
Robin: 6-4
Scarecrow: 6-4
Supergirl: 4-6
Superman: 5-5
Swamp Thing: 6-4
Wonder Woman: 6-4
Red Hood: 4-6
Sub-Zero: 6-4
Starfire: 5-5
Black Manta: 6-4
Raiden: 6-4

 

[CrazyFingers]

WOW I have a lot of recording to do today. So glad this has been a hit!

 

[Jugghead]

WOW I have a lot of recording to do today. So glad this has been a hit!

I think in theory this is a great idea, but unfortunately it'll probably lead to a lot of petty bickering and hate against the usual group of characters. So far so good though!

 

[SaucyD0ge]

I think in theory this is a great idea, but unfortunately it'll probably lead to a lot of petty bickering and hate against the usual group of characters. So far so good though!

Just wait until a Supegirl player comes here saying she has a losing match-up...

 

[CrazyFingers]

Just wait until a Supegirl player comes here saying she has a losing match-up...

Ive had one person (not on TYM) say scarecrow but that was the only one.

 

[SaucyD0ge]

Batman

Aquaman: 4-6
Atrocitus: 6-4
Bane: 7-3
Batman: 5-5
Black Adam: 5-5
Black Canary: 6-4
Blue Beetle: 5-5
Brainiac: 6-4
Captain Cold: 5-5
Catwoman: 5-5
Cheetah: 7-3
Cyborg: 5-5
Darkseid: 5-5
Deadshot: 4-6
Dr. Fate: 5-5
Firestorm: 6-4
Flash: 6-4
Gorilla Grodd: 7-3
Green Arrow: 4-6
Green Lantern: 5-5
Harley Quinn: 4-6
The Joker: 6-4
Poison Ivy: 5-5
Robin: 6-4
Scarecrow: 6-4
Supergirl: 4-6
Superman: 5-5
Swamp Thing: 6-4
Wonder Woman: 6-4
Red Hood: 4-6
Sub-Zero: 6-4
Starfire: 5-5
Black Manta: 6-4
Raiden: 6-4

I’m going to disaggree with:
-SG:she has nothing but yolo ports to open you up after you call in bats, walk her to the corner until her patience gives out, outlame her and os d2 ALWAYS after b12(you’ll always smack her if she tries frost breath) 5-5
-Flash:any decent Flash will try to bait you into using your bats with rms and is able to anti air EASILY our jump 2.However we also get to punish backdashes via jump 2 reads, so the rushdown meta is equal.You can pressure all you want and he can 50/50 all he wants. 5/5, 6/4 if the Flash struggles against batarangs.
-WoWo:both characters have efficient tools against each other and you can play the full screen or rushdown.She wants the mid range.5-5

 

[Tundra81]

Just a casual nobody with most of my matches coming from Ranked and a handful of sets with a few TYM guys. Going to be a lot of 5-5's because I think GL is arguably the most balanced in the game but here goes...

Green Lantern:

Aquaman: 5-5
Atrocitus: 6-4
Bane: 6-4
Batman: 5-5 (maybe 4-6)
Black Adam: 5-5
Black Canary: 6-4
Blue Beetle: 5-5
Brainiac: 5-5
Captain Cold: 5-5
Catwoman: 5-5
Cheetah: 5-5
Cyborg: 5-5
Darkseid: 5-5
Deadshot: 4-6 (uughh)
Dr. Fate: 4-6 (uughh)
Firestorm: 5-5
Flash: 6-4
Gorilla Grodd: 5-5
Green Arrow: 5-5
Harley Quinn: 4-6
The Joker: 6-4
Poison Ivy: 5-5
Robin: 5-5
Scarecrow: 5-5
Supergirl: 5-5
Superman: 5-5 (maybe 4-6)
Swamp Thing: 5-5 (maybe 6-4)
Wonder Woman: 5-5 (maybe 6-4)
Red Hood: 4-6
Sub-Zero: 5-5
Starfire: 5-5
Black Manta: 5-5
Raiden: 5-5

 

[EntropicByDesign]

Even if i'm the Starfire god lord we all need, I haven't played all match ups with her so i'm not gonna make a chart. Superman tho



Blue Beetle: 6-4

Im guessing Beetle loses because F23 on the ground and LAZERZ in the air? Not disagreeing at all, just curious.

 

[Espio]

Im guessing Beetle loses because F23 on the ground and LAZERZ in the air? Not disagreeing at all, just curious.

Superman is just a better jack of all trades character in footsies, damage, zoning and he can lame him out more effectively. Superman has great jump normals and really solid ground mobility combined with a great air dash so he can blow Beetle up hard for misplaced fireballs. It's pretty cut and dry.

 

[EntropicByDesign]

Superman is just a better jack of all trades character in footsies, damage, zoning and he can lame him out more effectively. Superman has great jump normals and really solid ground mobility combined with a great air dash so he can blow Beetle up hard for misplaced fireballs. It's pretty cut and dry.

Makes sense, was just wondering. Beetle is the first character Ive REALLY taken seriously, and I like adding to my notes and such.

Ive always liked Supes, but he just doesn't feel as smooth as beetle.

 

[colby4898]

Cyborg
A couple chenges from the thread I made after some match ups were debated and I was persuaded

Aquaman: 4 - 6 (bit of a debate on this but I think he loses slightly)
Atrocitus: 5 - 5
Bane: 5 - 5
Batman: 4 - 6
Black Adam: 5 - 5
Black Canary: 5 - 5
Blue Beetle: 5 - 5
Brainiac: 5 - 5
Captain Cold: 5 - 5
Catwoman: 4 - 6
Cheetah: 6 - 4
Cyborg: 5 - 5
Darkseid: 3 - 7
Deadshot: 4 - 6
Dr. Fate: 5 - 5
Firestorm: 5 - 5
Flash: 5 - 5
Gorilla Grodd: 6 - 4
Green Arrow: 4 - 6
Green Lantern: 5 - 5
Harley Quinn: 5 - 5
The Joker: 5 - 5
Poison Ivy: 5 - 5
Robin: 6 - 4
Scarecrow: 6 - 4
Supergirl: 4 - 6
Superman: 5 - 5
Swamp Thing: 6 - 4
Wonder Woman: 5 - 5
Red Hood: 4 - 6
Sub-Zero: 5 - 5
Starfire: 4 - 6
Black Manta: 5 - 5
Raiden: 5 - 5
Hellboy:

Winning: 5
Losing: 7
Even: 21

Wonder Woman

Aquaman: 5 - 5
Atrocitus: 6 - 4
Bane: 6 - 4
Batman: 5 - 5
Black Adam: 5 - 5
Black Canary: 6 - 4
Blue Beetle: 5 - 5
Brainiac: 5 - 5
Captain Cold: 5 - 5
Catwoman: 4 - 6
Cheetah: 6 - 4
Cyborg: 5 - 5
Darkseid: 4 - 6
Deadshot: 4 - 6
Dr. Fate: 5 - 5
Firestorm: 5 - 5
Flash: 5 - 5
Gorilla Grodd: 6 - 4
Green Arrow: 5 - 5
Green Lantern: 5 - 5
Harley Quinn: 5 - 5
The Joker: 5 - 5
Poison Ivy: 5 - 5
Robin: 5 - 5
Scarecrow: 6 - 4
Supergirl: 5 - 5
Superman: 5 - 5
Swamp Thing: 6 - 4
Wonder Woman: 5 - 5
Red Hood: 4 - 6
Sub-Zero: 5 - 5
Starfire: 5 - 5
Black Manta: 5 - 5
Raiden: 5 - 5
Hellboy

Winning: 6
Losing: 4
Even: 24

 

[myri]

Fuck it, everyone already hates me for my opinions so here you go buddy.

Character vs. Supergirl

??? = Need more experience to say for sure.

Aquaman: 5-5
Atrocitus: 5-5
Bane: 5-5
Batman: 5-5
Black Adam: 5-5
Black Canary: 5-5
Blue Beetle: 5-5
Brainiac: 5-5
Captain Cold: 4-6
Catwoman: 5-5
Cheetah: 5-5
Cyborg: 4-6
Darkseid: 5-5
Deadshot: 5-5
Dr. Fate: 5-5
Firestorm: 5-5
Flash: 5-5
Gorilla Grodd: 5-5
Green Arrow: 6-4
Green Lantern: 5-5
Harley Quinn: 5-5
The Joker: 4-6
Poison Ivy: 4-6
Robin: 5-5
Scarecrow: 5-5
Supergirl: 5-5
Superman: 5-5
Swamp Thing: 4-6
Wonder Woman: 6-4
Red Hood: 5-5
Sub-Zero: 5-5
Starfire: 5-5
Black Manta: 5-5
Raiden: ???
Hellboy: ???

Winning: 5
Even: 26
Losing: 2
???: 2

 

[CrazyFingers]

Fuck it, everyone already hates me for my opinions so here you go buddy.

Character vs. Supergirl

??? = Need more experience to say for sure.

Aquaman: 5-5
Atrocitus: 5-5
Bane: 5-5
Batman: 5-5
Black Adam: 5-5
Black Canary: 5-5
Blue Beetle: 5-5
Brainiac: 5-5
Captain Cold: 4-6
Catwoman: 5-5
Cheetah: 5-5
Cyborg: 4-6
Darkseid: 5-5
Deadshot: 5-5
Dr. Fate: 5-5
Firestorm: 5-5
Flash: 5-5
Gorilla Grodd: 5-5
Green Arrow: 6-4
Green Lantern: 5-5
Harley Quinn: 5-5
The Joker: 4-6
Poison Ivy: 4-6
Robin: 5-5
Scarecrow: 5-5
Supergirl: 5-5
Superman: 5-5
Swamp Thing: 4-6
Wonder Woman: 6-4
Red Hood: 5-5
Sub-Zero: 5-5
Starfire: 5-5
Black Manta: 5-5
Raiden: ???
Hellboy: ???

Winning: 5
Even: 26
Losing: 2
???: 2

Now hold up. I know why I used to thing this. But you gotta real talk explain your swamp thing number.

 

[myri]

Now hold up. I know why I used to thing this. But you gotta real talk explain your swamp thing number.

You don't think he loses?

 

[Sesal Snow]

For Blue Beetle

Aquaman 5/5
Atrocitus 6/4
Bane 6/4
Batman 4/6
Black Adam 5/5
Black Canary 6/4
Black Manta 5/5
Blue Beetle 5/5
Brainiac 5/5
Captain Cold 6/4
Catwoman 5/5
Cheetah 5/5
Cyborg 5/5
Darkseid 5/5
Deadshot 4/6
Dr Fate 6/4
Firestorm 5/5
Flash 5/5
Gorilla Grodd 6/4
Green Arrow 4/6
Green Lantern 5/5
Harley Quinn 5/5
Joker 6/4
Ivy 6/4
Raiden 5/5
Red Hood 5/5
Robin 5/5
Scarecrow 5/5
Starfire 5/5
SubZero 6/4
Supergirl 5/5
Superman 5/5
Swampthing 6/4
Wonderwoman 5/5

10 Winning MU's
21 Even MU's
3 Loosing MU's

 

[Hellz HitmaN]

Fuck it, everyone already hates me for my opinions so here you go buddy.

Character vs. Supergirl

??? = Need more experience to say for sure.

Aquaman: 5-5
Atrocitus: 5-5
Bane: 5-5
Batman: 5-5
Black Adam: 5-5
Black Canary: 5-5
Blue Beetle: 5-5
Brainiac: 5-5
Captain Cold: 4-6
Catwoman: 5-5
Cheetah: 5-5
Cyborg: 4-6
Darkseid: 5-5
Deadshot: 5-5
Dr. Fate: 5-5
Firestorm: 5-5
Flash: 5-5
Gorilla Grodd: 5-5
Green Arrow: 6-4
Green Lantern: 5-5
Harley Quinn: 5-5
The Joker: 4-6
Poison Ivy: 4-6
Robin: 5-5
Scarecrow: 5-5
Supergirl: 5-5
Superman: 5-5
Swamp Thing: 4-6
Wonder Woman: 6-4
Red Hood: 5-5
Sub-Zero: 5-5
Starfire: 5-5
Black Manta: 5-5
Raiden: ???
Hellboy: ???

Winning: 5
Even: 26
Losing: 2
???: 2

Now hold up. I know why I used to thing this. But you gotta real talk explain your swamp thing number.

I think he wrote the entire thing backward.... dude myri, you post a matchup chart from your character's point of view...

 

[Hellz HitmaN]

Scarecrow’s matchups


Aquaman: 5-5

Atrocitus: 5-5

Bane: 7-3

Batman: 4-6

Black Adam: 5-5

Black Canary: 6-4

Blue Beetle: 6-4

Brainiac: 6-4

Captain Cold: 4-6

Catwoman: 5-5

Cheetah: 6-4

Cyborg: 5-5

Darkseid: 5-5

Deadshot: 3-7

Dr. Fate: 5-5

Firestorm: 5-5

Flash: 5-5

Gorilla Grodd: 6-4

Green Arrow: 3-7

Green Lantern: 5-5

Harley Quinn: 5-5

The Joker: 5-5

Poison Ivy: 4-6

Robin: 5-5

Supergirl: 5-5

Superman: 5-5

Swamp Thing: 7-3

Wonder Woman: 4-6

Red Hood: 4-6

Sub-Zero: 6-4

Starfire: 4-6

Black Manta: 5-5

Raiden: 5-5


I still don’t have a viable second character and I’m the #2 ranked player on Xbox. Scarecrow’s been my boi since Day 1 so trust me I’m pretty credible here.

I've seen you on xbox. You're a beast. I have a few comments:

Bane: Sure we outrange him and break some of his armor with our pressure, but we get wrecked on knockdown just as bad as anyone else, if not worse. Scarecrow's backdash sucks and his wake up is single-hitting. 7-3 feels like a serious stretch. I lean toward 5-5, but maybe I can see a 6-4

Catwoman: Feels like a 4-6. It seems like we have to play defensively. If Catwoman gets the life lead, she can hang back and force us to approach. Very hard with her mb b3 and jump back 2

Batman: I feel this is closer to a 3-7. Seems like he can do whatever he wants against us. We get outzoned and can barely contest his trait bats. Pushblocking sucks as Batman will simply start zoning. Feels hopeless

 

[CrazyFingers]

You don't think he loses?

You have written that he wins