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Match-up Discussion Billy Dha Kid's Grundy MU Chart

Billy Dha Kid

Day 1 phenomenal grab immune
But he can't swamp hands her air teleport loops, she gets meter for free in that MU. If I want meter I'm not going to teleport like crazy on the ground.
If she is constantly teleporting how is she going to damage me? You will end up throwing a disc here or there at some point. Usually I will continue to wcc my way while you keep teleporting and if you teleport behind me usually you will go for a punish which I will reverse wcc and punish you.
 

EMPRESS_SunFire

Regina George of discord
If she is constantly teleporting how is she going to damage me? You will end up throwing a disc here or there at some point
In her teleport loop there will be a point where she will be pretty low, she can MB teleport into divekick or J2, you are not anti airing that at all and she getsst least 9% chip damage or a combo.
Also, as you said her trait is good against him and zoning him is an option as well... When he runs out of meter I can just start zoning that zombie mf.
 

Billy Dha Kid

Day 1 phenomenal grab immune
In her teleport loop there will be a point where she will be pretty low, she can MB teleport into divekick or J2, you are not anti airing that at all and she getsst least 9% chip damage or a combo.
Also, as you said her trait is good against him and zoning him is an option as well... When he runs out of meter I can just start zoning that zombie mf.
You would most likely hit my armor for wc if you did divekick, and let's be honest, who doesn't get free meter against Grundy anyway.
 

EMPRESS_SunFire

Regina George of discord
You would most likely hit my armor for wc if you did divekick
Do you mean when you are trying to get in? If so, it could be, or I could hit you at the right moment but also If I hit your armor, dive kick is grab immune so she is safe... I was talking about being low already and then MB teleport behind or in front of you... You would have to guess which side I will teleport if you want to armor trough my options with WC. And again... Dive kick would still be a safe option against WC.
 

Billy Dha Kid

Day 1 phenomenal grab immune
Do you mean when you are trying to get in? If so, it could be, or I could hit you at the right moment but also If I hit your armor, dive kick is grab immune so she is safe... I was talking about being low already and then MB teleport behind or in front of you... You would have to guess which side I will teleport if you want to armor trough my options with WC. And again... Dive kick would still be a safe option against WC.
Yeah but not something that would give you the winning advantage
 

Phosferrax

Original Liu Kang cop.
It does IMO... I would just get a life lead and teleport all day.... Also she has the advantage at the beggining of the match since she can perfectly zone you unless you have meter.
I think it could be 5-5. All Grundy needs is 1 bar and you can't zone and can't use trait. She does have good options when she sees a WC, I admittedly so need to play Billy more as he's played the best out of everyone, but the damage deficit is really a big deal when Grundy has health trait; it doesn't matter if you zone him when he has no meter for one because he just WCC all day through it and then gets just 1 bar and you're back to not being able to toss a ring. I have come up with a few more anti-WC tricks though and have thought about the MU in more detail so will need to play again. I think it could POSSIBLY slip to 6-4 Zat if the right game plan is achieved but right now I think it's 5-5.
awh lol , please tell me it was close :DOGE
gotta start blocking i suppose !!
He was up by quite a few in the set; nearly all the games were really close but he definitely out played me.
 

Billy Dha Kid

Day 1 phenomenal grab immune
@Billy Dha Kid

What made you change Wonder Woman from 5-5 to 4-6? Just curious as I don't have too much experience in the match-up.
I realized how easily Wonder Woman can play the escape game. Her J3, air dash, and air dive all screw up wcc and she can outzone grundy with tiaras. Basically she can play like a monkey, wait for a wcc fail and go in for the punish.
 

Drizzle

Jump and shoot.
I realized how easily Wonder Woman can play the escape game. Her J3, air dash, and air dive all screw up wcc and she can outzone grundy with tiaras. Basically she can play like a monkey, wait for a wcc fail and go in for the punish.
Alright, that's what I was thinking. If she never tries pressuring Grundy it's hard for him to get anything started.