Vigilante24
Beware my power, Red Lantern's Light
That's your Evo path? RIP Kenshi. Never allowed to live.
Was Brady using the tech in this video? Once again don't really follow the game anymore so I am not up to date on the specific pieces of tech. But if he was that still looks way way worse than 6-4. If it is 6-4, in neutral and when on defense what should Brady have been doing better? What options did he need to use more? Where was he going wrong? These are not sarcastic or rhetorical questions in any way, I am genuinely curious. Also if these things were discussed in the 4 hour video I apologize as I have not gotten around to watching that all yet.I think Tarkatan vs GM is 6-4 if you use Brady's close klone tech.
If not it's probably 8-2 or some shit lmao. See me vs Zoofs.
Brady was. If you set up the klone at point blank vs Alien, untechable throw and F33 becomes essentially a safe launching 50/50.Was Brady using the tech in this video? Once again don't really follow the game anymore so I am not up to date on the specific pieces of tech. But if he was that still looks way way worse than 6-4. If it is 6-4, in neutral and when on defense what should Brady have been doing better? What options did he need to use more? Where was he going wrong? These are not sarcastic or rhetorical questions in any way, I am genuinely curious. Also if these things were discussed in the 4 hour video I apologize as I have not gotten around to watching that all yet.
You still got banned from the stream lmfaoTOM PLAYED THE MU GREAT. LOVE YA BUD
:')You still got banned from the stream lmfao
It is a 7-3. Your claim to fame is that you are an online warrior trying to win Internet points by calling out Tom Brady. If you think I'm wrong and that you're the man, cool.Brady was. If you set up the klone at point blank vs Alien, untechable throw and F33 becomes essentially a safe launching 50/50.
Brady didn't do a great job of punishing snag and EX flip, which aren't very hard to punish for even Sub Zero if practiced. Both characters have trouble anti airing each other. Alien does win air to airs with jump 2, but Sub's jump 3 is actually pretty good at contending with it. Brady never really used it. Sub's jump 1 will just lose every time.
My rekka meta game was way ahead of Brady's. Of course I know that it was impossible that I actually outplayed him. Without a doubt I did there, though. The first several times I baited a backdash by staggering the second rekka, he did it. Even when he had meter, i'd delay the first rekka perfectly to make the low a true string. Instead of punishing or even recognizing that, he just mashed and got hit. He just had poor execution and a poor understanding of my options, until later in the set.
My opinion on the match up.
I think that the safety of Sub Zero when he's on offense, versus the safety of Alien's mix ups, keeps the match from being too heavily in Alien's favor. Alien can do his 7% overhead flip and be -7, but that runs the risk of getting reversal thrown, or if the Alien player tries to escape, anticipating the throw, they can get hit for that. Sub Zero on the otherhand runs almost no risk once he has Alien in the corner, which only takes 1-2 hits max or one reversal slide on this game.
I feel like D'vorah has the same neutral advantage, while being able to anti air Sub and get out of the corner at a much higher rate. I know the first point will not be felt, because only a select few actually play Alien. Alien has a very hard time anti airing Sub Zero, as a lot of characters do. D'vorah does not. I feel like D'vorah clearly plays this match better than Alien. Not that she's the better character, I just think that she does better vs Sub. Imo even Brady thinks that, it's just an ego thing where you can't lose so many games and put blame on yourself. If Alien vs Sub is truly a 7-3, then tell the community that D'vorah vs Sub is a 9-1 or 8-2. That obviously won't go over smoothly, so lets just both put them at 7-3. :/
I didn't say much in response to Brady saying that it was unwinnable and what not on the stream. Brady has a lot of followers, and the mob was in the full effect. One guy who is a mod in Brady's stream told me that Sub Zero vs Sun God Kotal is a 5-5. Trying to tell an anti Alien crowd why Sub Zero isn't at that big of a disadvantage, while i'm beating their hero, would have just been a waste of time.
Imo if people took me vs Brady out of the equation and actually played the MU from both ends, it'd be known as a 6-4 without question. However, I also know that nothing I say can change that people love Brady, that people hate Alien. I'll just say that I know the match is 6-4 and leave it at that. If you think i'm wrong and that Alien can anti air Sub Zero's jump 1 with standing 1, cool.
Edit: None of this post was directed towards the guy I quoted lol. Sorry man. I'm just speaking in general because I know this post will get tons of hate.
At least he takes his aggression out on us Internet civilians instead of people in real life. :')
really? what did tweedy do wrong here he played hard, so where were you at EVO?It is a 7-3. Your claim to fame is that you are an online warrior trying to win Internet points by calling out Tom Brady. If you think I'm wrong and that you're the man, cool.
He asked me to play in the first place. He said that i'm theory fighting and not playing the match at a high level. I even said several times that i'm not very good at the game. You've got the situation ass backwards and it's definitely not 7-3.It is a 7-3. Your claim to fame is that you are an online warrior trying to win Internet points by calling out Tom Brady. If you think I'm wrong and that you're the man, cool.
Brady was. If you set up the klone at point blank vs Alien, untechable throw and F33 becomes essentially a safe launching 50/50.
Brady didn't do a great job of punishing snag and EX flip, which aren't very hard to punish for even Sub Zero if practiced. Both characters have trouble anti airing each other. Alien does win air to airs with jump 2, but Sub's jump 3 is actually pretty good at contending with it. Brady never really used it. Sub's jump 1 will just lose every time.
My rekka meta game was way ahead of Brady's. Of course I know that it was impossible that I actually outplayed him. Without a doubt I did there, though. The first several times I baited a backdash by staggering the second rekka, he did it. Even when he had meter, i'd delay the first rekka perfectly to make the low a true string. Instead of punishing or even recognizing that, he just mashed and got hit. He just had poor execution and a poor understanding of my options, until later in the set.
My opinion on the match up.
I think that the safety of Sub Zero when he's on offense, versus the safety of Alien's mix ups, keeps the match from being too heavily in Alien's favor. Alien can do his 7% overhead flip and be -7, but that runs the risk of getting reversal thrown, or if the Alien player tries to escape, anticipating the throw, they can get hit for that. Sub Zero on the otherhand runs almost no risk once he has Alien in the corner, which only takes 1-2 hits max or one reversal slide on this game.
I feel like D'vorah has the same neutral advantage, while being able to anti air Sub and get out of the corner at a much higher rate. I know the first point will not be felt, because only a select few actually play Alien. Alien has a very hard time anti airing Sub Zero, as a lot of characters do. D'vorah does not. I feel like D'vorah clearly plays this match better than Alien. Not that she's the better character, I just think that she does better vs Sub. Imo even Brady thinks that, it's just an ego thing where you can't lose so many games and put blame on yourself. If Alien vs Sub is truly a 7-3, then tell the community that D'vorah vs Sub is a 9-1 or 8-2. That obviously won't go over smoothly, so lets just both put them at 7-3. :/
I didn't say much in response to Brady saying that it was unwinnable and what not on the stream. Brady has a lot of followers, and the mob was in the full effect. One guy who is a mod in Brady's stream told me that Sub Zero vs Sun God Kotal is a 5-5. Trying to tell an anti Alien crowd why Sub Zero isn't at that big of a disadvantage, while i'm beating their hero, would have just been a waste of time.
Imo if people took me vs Brady out of the equation and actually played the MU from both ends, it'd be known as a 6-4 without question. However, I also know that nothing I say can change that people love Brady, that people hate Alien. I'll just say that I know the match is 6-4 and leave it at that. If you think i'm wrong and that Alien can anti air Sub Zero's jump 1 with standing 1, cool.
Edit: None of this post was directed towards the guy I quoted lol. Sorry man. I'm just speaking in general because I know this post will get tons of hate.
8-2 IMOPeople who actually play this game, can someone give me an estimate of a matchup number here? It looks terrible
EDIT: Just heard you guys say 7-3 in the video. It looks worse than that to me haha
U3 works but it's much easier said than done. U3 is a great move on paper for non-Acidic variations, but it has points where it whiffs, that will often be the point where you react and anti air someone. It's like telling a Kung Jin player to just anti air every time with U1. That's a read, not a reaction. I mean can't Sub Zero just walk forward and trip guard Alien with standing 1? Neither of these things are comparable to Mileena's roll, at all.Alien rapes sub zero
Mileena rapes sub zero
Both when midscreen, both are in trouble when they're cornered. I think you're downplaying how easy it is for alien.
The whole 'it takes one hit to get cornered' is more on your mistakes than the sub player, you have every advantage midscreen to control the situation. The only way characters like these would get cornered by sub is they either back themselves up by zoning too long (Mileena), or they make a big enough mistake to open themselves up.
Also, on the topic of anti airs, Sub can't, but isn't alien able to just u3?
This quote sums up every time Tweedy opened his mouth on that stream.Last post in this thread. Lab the MU yourself. I don't care if you're Foxy or a shithead from Tom's stream. If you think it's 7-3, you're wrong. That's it.
Curious what are Sub zero s 4-6?Midscreen is so fucking free for Alien, if you get cornered it involves Alien getting outplayed in a situation that Alien has every conceivable advantage. That's why human error can't affect the MU number. It's like if someone lost due to dropping a combo and went around claiming it changed the matchup. When Alien gets cornered it's never Alien's fault, always the player. It's not like Reptile or Jax where Sub can just bully you until they have eventually have their back to the wall. Like I said, I can't give it a number due to lack of XP, but it's pretty horrible. It feels different than any of Sub's other 4-6s, that's for sure.