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We should post some friend codes when the game comes out or something like that.
 

shaowebb

Get your guns on. Sheriff is back.
Lil mac gonna wreck some folks. I can't wait to get into it with him. Also don't forget...return of Ganon. This time with armor, rage factor increasing his knockback, and with running shoulder now acting as a combo starter that puts them in a juggle state. mmmmmm yes.
 

shaowebb

Get your guns on. Sheriff is back.
Pacman is odd. He's slow and people are having trouble finding his kill moves. I know his hydrant is super annoying and if you hit it into someone it works as a KO move at least so theres something to him. His meta is super unexplored at the moment so folks don't really have him figured out yet. His speed holds him back the most.

Puff got better honestly. They changed some stuff and now I think certain moves halt puff in the air, but this actually seems to open up combo stuff from what I hear. I don't remember a lot of specifics...some stuff on knockback and such comes into play, but overall the consensus is that while altered Puff seems a bit better and less single minded now for folks.

Kirby is still Kirby, but the system buffs helped him a bit because he is still very good at recovering and now he has more airdodges. I know he definitely has some stages he becomes OP on. The boxing arena is a major one because the stadium lights are at the top of the stage. This means if you step into the ring with kirby down below and he does his throw he zips up, but then slams you into the lights above and you fly off the stage.

I think you'll be happy with Puff, and Kirby. I've heard no complaints from their past players so far and a lot of appreciative nodding here and there seems about all I see. Nothing crazy OMG stands out that I can remember or I'd likely have more to say right now, but at least you know they are fine. Pacman...jury is out right now, but he doesn't look too great until folks can figure out some method of killing with him. Unlike Greninja who has the same problem with having little KO power, Pacman can't fight you as crazy far off or below the stage as Greninja. Likely that will be Greninja's tactic...to force you off and then ride you too far out for most cast besides himself to recover. Pacman...so far I've just seen hydrant setups to force edge guarding.
 

shaowebb

Get your guns on. Sheriff is back.
Hilarious glitch discovered on 3ds.

In multiman brawl you fight dudes. Eventually a single big character will appear to put a stop to your rampage and that is supposed to happen. Here's where the magic happens. Play as Yoshi and eat that dude and every time they get BIGGER. Eventually you end up with this Godzilla.

Link to article where I heard of this
http://www.avclub.com/article/super-smash-bros-players-discover-glitch-turns-fig-209850


VID.

What I want to know is if I see someone eat a giant mushroom and I start eating them with Yoshi if it will do the same thing. If so...MAGIC.
 

shaowebb

Get your guns on. Sheriff is back.
More tech has been discovered folks. We already knew that edge cancels were leading to some characters being able to cancel both recovery and startup on some moves. Example, Peach's booty can edge cancel on whif into instant veggie grabs.

Well check out this crazy shit with Pikachu's quickattack.

https://vine.co/v/OZ9I0tIvuL5

Next level footsies right there.

UPDATE:

More Yoshi craziness. He can wavedash with his egg moves. *neogaf posters are on fire with tech links today*
https://vine.co/v/Om5iaLHwbJr
 
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shaowebb

Get your guns on. Sheriff is back.
More Smash. This time on a lot of people's old time pal...SHEIK.

I found a discussion on his new move Bouncing Fish. Used to he would change into Zelda, but now that Sheik can't transform he uses either a grenade or for the air transform a backlfip kick.

This move is BEAST. It can be done almost immediately on pressing the jump button so you can do it out of run, to recover...whatever. It hits like a truck for great knockback so its a kill move, its fast, and it is an amazing recovery tool. Start watching for this backflip to appear constantly at about the 30second mark in this Greninja vs Sheik match. It starts popping up a LOT...nearly every 10 seconds and it is amazingly versatile and lets you play far more aggressive.



 

pogse

Ruthlesss Mayhem
10pm @ gamestop. woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
 

DarksydeDash

You know me as RisingShieldBro online.
Anyone got tips for ZS samus, Greninja, and Mega man? Im sorta new to smash so advice is appreciated.
 

shaowebb

Get your guns on. Sheriff is back.
Anyone got tips for ZS samus, Greninja, and Mega man? Im sorta new to smash so advice is appreciated.
Megaman

Most everything combos into his Air shooter and Hard Knuckle and they kill the easiest.

  1. Good setups for air shooter include the uppercut, up or down throw, or the spark needle which BTW pulls folks in and covers above him pretty far as well as in front of him.
  2. Hard knuckle is easiest to spike folks with by simply using the Up B rush coil to instantly spring above folks into down B hard Knuckle. Just keep in mind its not full screen so adjust for height.
  3. Megaman's smashes are ALL good. His Down B flame spires are super useful and hard to thread the needle on with a jump in. Bait folks into them whenever you can.
  4. Top spin is your go to chase down move. Eat abuses the shit outta shields and gives you positive frames.
  5. Leaf Shield is NOT to be thought of as a shield. Use it like Black Adam's orbs for extra chip. It makes any grab from Megaman do guaranteed 22%!
  6. Metal Blade is 8 way aimable but requires a flick of the direction AFTER you tap B to pull it out. It can be caught and used against you but it is amazing for jumping pressure and to help you escape. Master it.
  7. You have some of the best mobility and zoning in the game. Do NOT be afraid to play off the stage or to just plain fish for side throws off the ledge and to force folks to the bottom. He is great at this.
 

DarksydeDash

You know me as RisingShieldBro online.
Megaman

Most everything combos into his Air shooter and Hard Knuckle and they kill the easiest.

  1. Good setups for air shooter include the uppercut, up or down throw, or the spark needle which BTW pulls folks in and covers above him pretty far as well as in front of him.
  2. Hard knuckle is easiest to spike folks with by simply using the Up B rush coil to instantly spring above folks into down B hard Knuckle. Just keep in mind its not full screen so adjust for height.
  3. Megaman's smashes are ALL good. His Down B flame spires are super useful and hard to thread the needle on with a jump in. Bait folks into them whenever you can.
  4. Top spin is your go to chase down move. Eat abuses the shit outta shields and gives you positive frames.
  5. Leaf Shield is NOT to be thought of as a shield. Use it like Black Adam's orbs for extra chip. It makes any grab from Megaman do guaranteed 22%!
  6. Metal Blade is 8 way aimable but requires a flick of the direction AFTER you tap B to pull it out. It can be caught and used against you but it is amazing for jumping pressure and to help you escape. Master it.
  7. You have some of the best mobility and zoning in the game. Do NOT be afraid to play off the stage or to just plain fish for side throws off the ledge and to force folks to the bottom. He is great at this.
What exactly am I baiting?
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
you can pop Villagers fucking balloons. GOOD. That frickin move has such insane vertical recovery he can survive from off screen below the stage. I'm gonna be chucking Hard Knuckles and Metal Blades at him all day down there with Megaman.
Lol someone is unaware of Balloon Fight for the NES?
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
What exactly am I baiting?
Opponents trying to get in and hit Mega. DSmash is amazing. It's a wall of fiery "Don't Touch Me" hitboxes lol. Feint patterns to bait an advancing reaction, specifically jump-ins. Then DSMASH!

For real, that shit is golden.
 

Fromundaman

I write too much.
Opponents trying to get in and hit Mega. DSmash is amazing. It's a wall of fiery "Don't Touch Me" hitboxes lol. Feint patterns to bait an advancing reaction, specifically jump-ins. Then DSMASH!

For real, that shit is golden.
I actually REALLY dislike Dsmash. It's hella unsafe on whiff and block, and one of his few moves that is.

I'd rather keep trying to kill with Usmash, Utilt or Uair, then if that doesn't work keep zoning until Bair becomes a kill move.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
I'm so happy near to nobody uses the guys I use Pikachu(man did he get nerfed lol) Villager(this dude is awesome for zoning and baiting with the tree) and currently working on Dr. Mario(who is fun but tough to use a little imo)

Bowser, omg this guy is so freaking durable. I was playing my friend yesterday we were training for hours, he loves little mac. He must have punched me off the screen numerous times and every time I was able to spin shell back lol had like 302% damage lmao @ that, anyone else would have been long dead before that. Bowser is slow as hell but powerful as hell!

The duckhunt dog is just so weird but hilarious at the same time, fights with the dog ducks...lol

Also, I don't know about you guys but sooo many Robin players online, characters sword seems so powerful.