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[STB Shujinkydink]

You guys should leave p2w alone he's just trying to better the community, and create discussion.

That being said MMH is fine as he is. He goes 5-5 with a large amount of the cast, if your character loses then you'll need a counter pick. It is a fighting game after all

 

[Chaosphere]

I lost track - is P2W face or heel at the moment?

Who cares? He's a shit person and our scene is better off without douchebags like him.

Like... I'm not even trolling right now. His sinestro is good, but he's just a.... horrible person inside and out. I have no idea why he's here when all he does is shit talk our community. Obviously there's so much room for improvement, but this guy has NEVER EVER been a decent guy to anyone for ANY reason other than he found a game he could get some quick success in and receive some props and I promise you that's the only reason he's still around whining about why his character sucks against 3 other characters.

 

[DevilMaySpy]

 

[Pnut]

They should make sinestro boulders a low and make it -33

LoL. It already sucks. Can be punished by half the cast at full screen. We should call it Billpact Event.

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

edit in OP
*edit i see a lot of talk. to be straight I think sinestro is a top ~5 character and top 3 in the entire game with trait

 

[HomeLee1121]

edit in OP
*edit i see a lot of talk. to be straight I think sinestro is a top ~5 character and top 3 in the entire game with trait

So basically...sinestro should be nerfed too

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

They should make sinestro boulders a low and make it -33

that would be fine. they are used as anti airs anyways. if you are grounded and they hit you thats your fault.

 

[Syknis]

Who cares? He's a shit person and our scene is better off without douchebags like him.

Like... I'm not even trolling right now. His sinestro is good, but he's just a.... horrible person inside and out. I have no idea why he's here when all he does is shit talk our community. Obviously there's so much room for improvement, but this guy has NEVER EVER been a decent guy to anyone for ANY reason other than he found a game he could get some quick success in and receive some props and I promise you that's the only reason he's still around whining about why his character sucks against 3 other characters.

Calm down bro

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

Who cares? He's a shit person and our scene is better off without douchebags like him.

Like... I'm not even trolling right now. His sinestro is good, but he's just a.... horrible person inside and out. I have no idea why he's here when all he does is shit talk our community. Obviously there's so much room for improvement, but this guy has NEVER EVER been a decent guy to anyone for ANY reason other than he found a game he could get some quick success in and receive some props and I promise you that's the only reason he's still around whining about why his character sucks against 3 other characters.

thats pretty harsh for someone you have never met.

this is not about sinestro at all. it is about balance. at the highest level of play these three characters are in a tier of their own. I don't want a game that will come down to "you have to just counter pick"

sinestro has plenty of 6-4 matchups and i don't mind them at all. i can still play the game and overcome bad matchups.

 

[trufenix]

I'm wondering why this shameless request for nerfing is more significant than any other. Anybody?

 

[Briggs8417]

I think the thing I love the most about this thread is that he actually thinks this game is ever going to be touched again.

 

[Shaazzyam]

His complaints about MMH are different to the ones I would have.

MB orbs are dumb, trait normals are dumb in general.

I think MMH needs more negativity on moves like standing 3, scoop. Also why the hell does he have a 5f normal?

I'd hate on the OH tele for being a free cross over attempt on any jump too.

It'd be nice to make psionic push less insane with its 360 degree bubble hotbox too, either make it punishable, or reduce the hitbox, none of this will happen though. Same with his b2, why does it hit behind him?

Scoop is already negative 10. His 5 frame normal is a mid you can duck and has terrible range outside of combos.

Push does have a wonky hitbox.

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

And to the people trying to pull me into some bs trash talk. I will not be acknowledging it.

Stay on topic whether u agree or not.

 

[RIF]

thats pretty harsh for someone you have never met.

this is not about sinestro at all. it is about balance. at the highest level of play these three characters are in a tier of their own. I don't want a game that will come down to "you have to just counter pick"

sinestro has plenty of 6-4 matchups and i don't mind them at all. i can still play the game and overcome bad matchups.

As a Sinestro player, you then have to address Sinestro's utter domination of Lex Luthor. Or Deathstoke's choke-hold on Hawkgirl. Or other disparate MUs like this.

It's a double-edged sword. I agree with some of your assertions regarding these characters and the proposed changes, but there's a lot hinging on one or two modifications.

 

[DarthArma]

change the name of trident rush to "scissor me timbers" then he'll be balanced

 

[Cossner]

These nerfs would totally do nothing to fix the reason why those characters blow people up.

B for effort.

I love how in his tier list, Green Arrow is above or at the same level as Bladam, Raven, Hawkgirl, Catwoman, Green Lantern, Lex, Lobo, Zatanna, Harley, Grundy...

 

[Espio]

As a Sinestro player, you then have to address Sinestro's utter domination of Lex Luthor. Or Deathstoke's choke-hold on Hawkgirl. Or other disparate MUs like this.

It's a double-edged sword. I agree with some of your assertions regarding these characters and the proposed changes, but there's a lot hinging on one or two modifications.

Sinestro is worse for Hawkgirl than Deathstroke, which is 4-6 to be honest.

 

[PunkMafia83]

Mk 9.

 

[HomeLee1121]

change the name of trident rush to "scissor me timbers" then he'll be balanced

What if they did change it and two aqua players did it at the same time?

 

[RIF]

Sinestro is worse for Hawkgirl than Deathstroke, which is 4-6 to be honest.

Actually, I think it's 6-4 in Sinestro's favor. It's a shame we can't test some things out, but I think there's some things that definitely work against Sinestro in that MU.

My point still stands. If @P2W wants a game devoid of counter-picking he needs to address other dominant MUs and not just the 3 characters mentioned in the OP.

 

[Chaosphere]

thats pretty harsh for someone you have never met.

this is not about sinestro at all. it is about balance. at the highest level of play these three characters are in a tier of their own. I don't want a game that will come down to "you have to just counter pick"

sinestro has plenty of 6-4 matchups and i don't mind them at all. i can still play the game and overcome bad matchups.

We've "met" 3 or 4 times. You were a super douche every single time. Not to mention the pages and pages of hate mail you sent me in the past online.

 

[Espio]

Actually, I think it's 6-4 in Sinestro's favor. It's a shame we can't test some things out, but I think there's some things that definitely work against Sinestro in that MU.

My point still stands. If @P2W wants a game devoid of counter-picking he needs to address other dominant MUs and not just the 3 characters mentioned in the OP.

It might be, I'm not above thinking a match up is better or worse than I currently have it pegged for overall.

PM me I'm actually curious to discuss this with you without derailing the thread haha.

 

[THTB]

We've "met" 3 or 4 times. You were a super douche every single time. Not to mention the pages and pages of hate mail you sent me in the past online.

This still has nothing to do with anything this thread is about.

I have no idea why you came at him like this. Granted, your experiences with him may warrant it, but still...this thread gave absolutely no reason for that. I'm not trying to defend him at all, either.

THAT SAID...

MMH - While OHTP isn't exactly the problem anyone has with MMH, making it the MB version of TP does indirectly affect MB orbs by giving him another important option that has to be MB'd to use. That means more meter being sucked up for other things. I don't think you're going to make orbs any better to deal with without making them horrendously weaker. By nature, the move is just really volatile when it comes to balancing. Also, I think with trait active, he should deal reduced damage and chip (like 25-30%), because the trait is fucked up. I had no idea until recently that the limbs on traited normals have no hurtbox on the stretched out part. It's literally a massive hitbox, and the hurtbox is back where the normals normally have the hurtbox.

Zod - I actually like that idea.

Aquaman - Pretty much.

 

[Chaosphere]

This still has nothing to do with anything this thread is about.

I have no idea why you came at him like this. Granted, your experiences with him may warrant it, but still...this thread gave absolutely no reason for that. I'm not trying to defend him at all, either.

Well, first of all I think this post is 100% irrelevant for a couple of reasons, one of them being that it's coming from him. Just saw him blabbering his mouth and it seemed prudent. I'm not going to make my own thread about it.

 

[STORMS]

Yet the equally bad Carl threads make the front page!

Fuck yeah Storms!

Are you referring to the announcement thread?