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Youphemism

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
InFlames said:
Almost

Shout outs to slow motion because its obviously hard to see combos in normal speed
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0:16 "Confusing mixup huh?" omG why dint u do it agan then?!11!?/? #sopro #mlgchampion #evo014champion #ultimatemaster
0:54 "Down down 4" this guy's pulling out the master execution, d4 too easy for this guy
1:00 "Down foward 3" Typo lol, king of execution but not the keyboard...
1:51 "This guys too sick!" I don't... I can't even...IT'S YOU

SMH
 
Scoot Magee

Scoot Magee

But I didn't want to dash
Reaper040 said:
Batman has superior footsies, more space control with bats, If you know how to block it's very hard to open someone up with arrow, Batman wins the zoning game and arrows forced to come in with a life deficit
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Nah arrow can open him up, people just don't use all his tools to condition people. You could say the same about batman's pressure besides his crossup tricks.

As far as the long range game either one can take it with the life lead. I have a pretty good amount of experience with that match. I feel it's a 5/5 but batman does have a slight edge with interactables.
 
Reaper040

Reaper040

Mortal
Scoot Magee said:
Nah arrow can open him up, people just don't use all his tools to condition people. You could say the same about batman's pressure besides his crossup tricks.

As far as the long range game either one can take it with the life lead. I have a pretty good amount of experience with that match. I feel it's a 5/5 but batman does have a slight edge with interactables.
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@Eric Z19 Could probably explain why it's Batmans favor better. It doesn't matter how much you can condition someone, he's still very limited on Batman and doesn't do as much damage, not to mention no standing resets.
 
Scoot Magee

Scoot Magee

But I didn't want to dash
Reaper040 said:
@Eric Z19 Could probably explain why it's Batmans favor better. It doesn't matter how much you can condition someone, he's still very limited on Batman and doesn't do as much damage, not to mention no standing resets.
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But arrow does have standing resets (if I'm thinking of the same meaning as you). He also does heavy damage in the corner. Batman has no wake up game so Arrow can run a pretty good corner game on him.
 
EMPEROR PRYCE

EMPEROR PRYCE

WAR SEASON "THE WEAK EXPOSED!"
Reaper040 said:
@Eric Z19 Could probably explain why it's Batmans favor better. It doesn't matter how much you can condition someone, he's still very limited on Batman and doesn't do as much damage, not to mention no standing resets.
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do u really need standing resets on batman? his wake ups are ass lol. and arrow does have standing resets, mostly in the corner.. but he still has them
 
Reaper040

Reaper040

Mortal
EMPEROR PRYCE said:
do u really need standing resets on batman? his wake ups are ass lol. and arrow does have standing resets, mostly in the corner.. but he still has them
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I wasn't trying to say Arrow needs them, just that batman has them, like many other advantages he has..... All Im saying is I say it's 6-4, and I backed it up. Sheesh
 
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Scoot Magee said:
I think that shit be 5 - 5 bro.
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On a more serious note, I have seen the footage, I know that you are much more knowledgable than I am when it comes to the Batman matchup. To be honest, you're more knowledgeable than me in regards to Green Arrow in general. With what limited experience I have, I have labeled this matchup 4-6. However, your acumen surpasses mine, and my opinion could be a result of my horrible fundamentals (I started fighting games last october.)

Just a side note. 7L has also labeled this 4-6. So i've got that going for me. Which is nice. :DOGE
 
Scoot Magee

Scoot Magee

But I didn't want to dash
CalebHara said:


On a more serious note, I have seen the footage, I know that you are much more knowledgable than I am when it comes to the Batman matchup. To be honest, you're more knowledgeable than me in regards to Green Arrow in general. With what limited experience I have, I have labeled this matchup 4-6. However, your acumen surpasses mine, and my opinion could be a result of my horrible fundamentals (I started fighting games last october.)

Just a side note. 7L has also labeled this 4-6. So i've got that going for me. Which is nice. :DOGE
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We don't have to agree, I could even be wrong. I feel Batman has a very small advantage which I don't think warrants a 6-4. I think it mostly comes from better use of interactables but it seems to me that both characters have good ways to lock each other down. I'll also say that I think the start of the match is in batman's favor because I have to respect the trait.
 
Eric The Scruffy

Eric The Scruffy

Warrior
Reaper040 said:
@Eric Z19 Could probably explain why it's Batmans favor better. It doesn't matter how much you can condition someone, he's still very limited on Batman and doesn't do as much damage, not to mention no standing resets.
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As always I'm more than open to the idea that I'm not playing the match at a high enough level, but here are my 2 cents for what its worth:

-In a straight up pure zoning war I agree that the one with the life lead can maintain it if they play the game correctly. However, I also think its a lot easier for Batman to navigate through arrow's defensive walls than the other way around. Batman's Forward dash is really good both in terms of distance and recovery, and his trait can be a great tool to cover his way in. Add onto that your fire arrow are only doing .8% chip when he blocks them and you only get three before you have to take a risk reloading them and the fire arrow gauntlet isn't really that scary.
Now arrow navigating the batarang gauntlet on the other hand....its certainly doable but its harder IMO. Batarangs hit mid which means you either jump them or block them, and they do a lot more than .8% chip (especially if he meterburns them). Arrows jump is super floaty which can give him problems here....and trait is just as good defensively if not better than it is offensively. Then there's the final tool which leads to my second point:

-Batman's backdash is a problem for arrow IMO. Possibly his most underrated tool I think. Batman's wakeup game might be terrible, but doing oki on him can be a lot harder than it seems when he can backdash out of a ton of your options. Raw arrow beats it thankfully, but that gets beat by jumping. In general Batman's backdash is also really effective at getting out of arrow's pressure and frametraps also.

Overall I don't think the fight is too awful, especially not compared to some of arrows other matchups, but I would agree with it being 6-4.
 
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