The Official Downplayer Scale

[Red Reaper]

Care to elaborate? I'm curious.

@Tm_whiteboi kan fill you on this Noobe up playing better than I kan.

 

[Eldriken]

@Tm_whiteboi kan fill you on this Noobe up playing better than I kan.

Ah, alright. I guess I'll wait and see if he replies.

 

[GRieVeR_SKeiTH]

This was clearly skewed by Wound being on the call and me not. That guy is top. "Shang could only beat the terrible characters"

 

[Helix123]

Forgive my ignorance but outside of that whole "death of superman" thing I haven't really heard KDZ downplay. What has he said recently?

He called superman a low mid tier character who was unviable on stream commentary on the break and said ares beats superman.

 

[Johnny Based Cage]

How Wound managed to fanagle an 8/10 when he's clearly transcended the scale into 11/10 territory as of late is beyond me. Please do recall that adding gamebreaking tech to "7th" makes "top 5" and then subtracting that same tech somehow now equals "unviable." If downplaying had its own mathematical formula...

 

[Endeavor]

He called superman a low mid tier character who was unviable on stream commentary on the break and said ares beats superman.

LOL WHAT?

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

Explain my placement

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

Explain my placement

Wonder Woman loses to Aquaman.

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

Wonder Woman loses to Aquaman.

Based on what?

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

@Mr. Mileena with the Jade if injustice ;_;

 

[TheBoyBlunder]

Wound bodies this list free.

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

I agreed, i think Foxy has Wonder Woman with no losing match-ups while it's more than confirmed that Lex, Zod and Sinestro defeat her.

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

I agreed, i think Foxy has Wonder Woman with no losing match-ups while it's more than confirmed that Lex, Zod and Sinestro defeat her.

@AK Pig Of The Hut agrees with me the Zod WoWo is even. He cant get off the floor, not by wakeup or backdash. He cant use trait slash up close since she can just D12 or D3 under it.
Advancing on Zod isnt that difficult if you move only when you take your free dash.

I still don't generally listen to what other WoWo players have to say on any matchups.

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

@AK Pig Of The Hut agrees with me the Zod WoWo is even. He cant get off the floor, not by wakeup or backdash. He cant use trait slash up close since she can just D12 or D3 under it.
Advancing on Zod isnt that difficult if you move only when you take your free dash.

I didn't know about D3 going under his trait :O it's a pretty annoying MU IMO tho. But what about Sinestro and Lex?

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

I didn't know about D3 going under his trait :O it's a pretty annoying MU IMO tho. But what about Sinestro and Lex?

Sinestro is a bitch for me too at the moment, but every match I thought that sucked I've managed to find a way around once I get the experience. I just need Wound to slap me about for a while. I did find out that if she can duck a fear blast you can dash forward and punish him with 23 23 B3 -> combo, so long as you're fast enough. Hard to do at the moment, but in time it could possibly be learned.

Aquaman is even because she can outrange all his normals with B2. Once he's knocked down he HAS to guess, his wakeups are non existant against WW. She's also one of the only characters that can jump at Aquaman and not worry about getting D2'd using her J3.

 

[Helix123]

Explain my placement

First, i'd like to declare that if anybody has a different opinion than the majority in this community is labeled a downplayer or up player, because you have a different opinion and you consider her to have no losing match-ups, calling her the best in the game and then calling her kabal, especially when nobody other than europeans agree with you, makes people see you as an extreme up player, the fact that @AK elitegoomba doesn't agree with you further solidifies the COMMUNITY's opinion on WW to be generally worse than you describe her to be, plus, there aren't many people who actually up play.

 

[DevilMaySpy]

First, i'd like to declare that if anybody has a different opinion than the majority in this community is labeled a downplayer or up player, because you have a different opinion and you consider her to have no losing match-ups, calling her the best in the game and then calling her kabal, especially when nobody other than europeans agree with you, makes people see you as an extreme up player, the fact that @AK elitegoomba doesn't agree with you further solidifies the COMMUNITY's opinion on WW to be generally worse than you describe her to be, plus, there aren't many people who actually up play.

This is about right. Not to say that Foxy is wrong, we just haven't seen it applied yet because no one is playing WW at the same level offline.

 

[Error404]

Feel free to give Dave a number. That's the point of the thread.

In relation to Zod I would say 6-7 when it comes to DS he is a solid 37

 

[Helix123]

Goomba doesn't use her in every matchup though, and he plays loads of other characters on the side, he's not schooled up enough yet.
It doesn't really matter what the community thinks in the end though, I'm 100% certain I know how the character works in general and in matchup specifics a hell of a lot more than even the other WoWo mains.

I said she was the best in the game BEFORE MMH.

Oh yeah, i know and everything, but the fact is, you were asking why you were on this list, in which i replied with the exact reason why, i am more or less neutral and unbiased towards this situation, and what the community thinks is paramount when it comes to stuff like this, if you want to argue, @Emperor DMS is your man.

 

[Perfect Legend]

Goomba doesn't use her in every matchup though, and he plays loads of other characters on the side, he's not schooled up enough yet.
It doesn't really matter what the community thinks in the end though, I'm 100% certain I know how the character works in general and in matchup specifics a hell of a lot more than even the other WoWo mains.

I said she was the best in the game BEFORE MMH.

#YouJustDon'tKnow
#WoWoSwag420Blazeitfaggot

I think she is the best in the game. There is literally no answer to beating WW outside of out playing her.

 

[DevilMaySpy]

In relation to Zod I would say 6-7 when it comes to DS he is a solid 37

I agree. I thought about Dave, but he's fairly reasonable when it comes to Zod. His Deathstroke downplaying cannot be measured by this scale.

@Mr. Mileena with the Jade if injustice ;_;

Lol, pre patch Mr. Mileena.

 

[Helix123]

I think she is the best in the game. There is literally no answer to beating WW outside of out playing her.

lex and sinestro have to work less than her to win, so that's not "outplaying" when they work less.

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

I think she is the best in the game. There is literally no answer to beating WW outside of out playing her.

She's a contender at least, doesn't matter if she's #1 or #5 or whatever. She just takes alot more dedication to learn to play effectively, and so far there's only me. Lolligagger is looking good too.

lex and sinestro have to work less than her to win, so that's not "outplaying" when they work less.

I think Lex without pushblock mine setups should make it easier, her Ex tiara can take him outta trait while he's throwing shit down, after certain blockstrings and normals her D12 will knock him outta followups.

There's risks on both sides of that matchup.

I'd much rather fight a Lex than a Sinestro though.

 

[Helix123]

She's a contender at least, doesn't matter if she's #1 or #5 or whatever. She just takes alot more dedication to learn to play effectively, and so far there's only me. Lolligagger is looking good too.

Elitegoomba mains her (doesn't matter if he plays secondaries she's still his main) and fillipinoman plays only her, and his WW is solid.

 

[Blind_Ducky]

Raven beats Grundy 6-4 because throw immunity on b23. Grundy has no answer. Flash loses 7-3 because if he gets knocked down he dies. Doomsday loses 6-4 because whiff punishing earth shaker isn't the biggest fucking bill I've ever been sold.