Okay that's what I thought.
What if I told you I may have found a way to do an improved version of this mixup while also keeping the threat of crossup j2, making it safe (I think, need to test more) and can be done without teeth under them/off of a combo ender or blockstring?
I'm still working on it, and need to test it out in live matches over the next few days, but I may have found a way to have a legit 33/33/33 (Or better! These mixups, even when blocked, are leading into more mixups) off of nearly everything and may have turned Joker into the highest damage vortex character in the game.
That said I may be getting your hopes up for nothing; I need to test this more.