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seperate personas and the internet

So lately i have been doing some self-reflecting...

sometimes on the internet i become a nastier person than i ever am in "real-life"(not saying i am satan, but i make mistakes), and I think that is dangerous because attitude is infectious towards other people and towards your own perception of the world. In reality, i try to be extra thankful and courteous to people i encounter, but on the internet i can be quick to prey on another person angrily (specifically when i am losing).

There are a lot of facctors that play a role in this. There is this whole attitude where the internet isn't "srs bizness," it has it's own social paradigm. now part of this is true, and i don't think people should get worked up over the internet, however what you say can effect people. On the other hand, there many distances created by the internet(similar to cars i might add) in which your mind can be allowed to "dehumanize" another person. There is the paradigm of the internet, there is the fact they have their own artificial persona, there is the safety and distance between, and most importantly they aren't living and breathing in front of you. That doesn't mean you cannot effect that person. And as i stated, negativity is infectious, violence whether emotional or physical has a way of perpetuating itself.

(now i am putting this in parentheses to explain this because i don't want to overly saturate this late night brain fart post, but i think the way violence perpetuates itself is that victims who are traumatized have a tendency to reduce the stress of that trauma through exposure to similar stimuli because that exposure reduces the strength of that stimulus(see later mere exposure), also they feel empowered rahter than being a helpless victim....empathy can incite anger because it's effect on consciousness is so strong that your mind rages at it defensively because it's too overstimulating [which is kind of funny because we view walling of your emotions as strong])


Forgive me for right now i am sleepy, and my grammar might be off. Sometimes i "subconsciously" utilize the internet as means of stress transfer. I utilize anger as a vessel for my stress, but it is not a long-term solution to the causal factors of that stress. Since is it short term, it means that stress can be replenished and in order to combat it i utilize the same tactic repeatedly. This could potentially cause a problem where i become "addictive" or "dependent" on anger to alleviate stress. Keep in mind this process has the potential to exponentiate because of the "mere exposure" effect. The mere exposure effect is an advertising term i learned where when you experience something once, the second time experiencing it is drastically reduced due to experience or the "mere exposure effect". So if i am merely exposed to my own anger, overtime i would require more of it to alleviate stress, so the general direction of my life could gravitate to that state in a perpetual spiral.

Now, if i victimize other people with my own anger, they will in tune perpetuate that anger and i will create an angrier world without much happiness. It has a way of snowballing out of control. So i guess, i should find better ways to reduce stress and in general focus on long-term solutions.


Sorry if i used TYM as a thought billboard... I don't know if i am normal
 

Killphil

A prop on the stage of life.
I had a canned response to this thread to say "Pig is already gone dude, too late".

But on topic: I like this and will start with saying that if someone is a dickhead to me on a forum and I have to unfortunately be in their company at some point, well, I won't start anything or get violent, but I'll start off not liking you and it will probably stay that way no matter how "nice" you are in real life. If a grudge is the heaviest thing to hold, I must be the strongest guy in the world. Some dude screwed me over when I was 19 and he could of helped me fix my car on a few occasions. I don't ask him for shit and have been told "life's too short to hold a grudge". Fuck that. I'll take it to the grave.

Don't get it twisted though, beating my ass in a video game is fine, and you're free to blow me up over that. I'll just air masterbate and pop it off like it ain't shit. Next game plz.
(I may have more thoughts on the stress part later on, but I too am tired and hoping to not fall into the grammar police sights x.x)
 

xWildx

What a day. What a lovely day.
I mean, it's the internet. It's much easier to speak to someone in a manner that's not altogether wholesome when you don't have to look at their face or be directly involved with their reaction. It's completely natural to get carried away sometimes, that's what happens when you're on the Internet and have that sense of anonymity that face-to-face interaction doesn't provide.
 

aldazo

Waiting for Havik
sometimes on the internet i become a nastier person than i ever am in "real-life"(not saying i am satan, but i make mistakes), and I think that is dangerous because attitude is infectious towards other people and towards your own perception of the world. In reality, i try to be extra thankful and courteous to people i encounter, but on the internet i can be quick to prey on another person angrily (specifically when i am losing).
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Wow, maybe you don't believe me but I had the same train of thought months ago, for me anger is a contagious infection and now I try to keep calm in real life and on internet most of the times, obviously is not an easy task but I manage to stop insulting (at least reduce the use of "hard" words) other people; I also try to be more tolerant towards others' opinions, but I must admit it is difficult to me. I think TYM needs this kind of talk right now, because I visit this site since 2011 and it is true it has change. I mean some people call it being negative when you differ or have a critique towards the game, a recent case for example could be cassey man-face, but I'm not talking about that kind of negativity, I mean the negativity product of the intolerance, like show in khrome threats for example. Anyway, I strongly recommend people to keep their minds at check, I mean try to be more tolerant and less disrespectful, I know I'm not the best example but I swear I'm trying!
 

@MylesWright_

I'll be back 3ing
A lot of people on TYM have a 'i know what I'm talking about' persona.' They post misinformation detailed in a way that would lead anyone who didn't actually know about the topic to believe it was true, like editing a wikipedia page. I'm not even talking about the killer frost forum; I'm talking about the idiots that told me killer frost was top-tier because she had "good" zoning and could option-select a throw tech by going for a throw like wtf
 
My Xbox gamertag includes my first name "Tony" hence "Tony at Home" and most of my forum accounts do too (recently paid 10 bucks just to get this account name changed).

I find having my first name on my account reminds me that I'm not a different person online, and that I must therefore always follow the Greatest Rule of Bill and Ted: "Be excellent to each other" because everything I put out there is a reflection on "Tony" and not my altar ego "XoXo Yolo Swagitty XoXo
 

EnergyKD

AKA KHAOTIC Zeus
My Xbox gamertag includes my first name "Tony" hence "Tony at Home" and most of my forum accounts do too (recently paid 10 bucks just to get this account name changed).

I find having my first name on my account reminds me that I'm not a different person online, and that I must therefore always follow the Greatest Rule of Bill and Ted: "Be excellent to each other" because everything I put out there is a reflection on "Tony" and not my altar ego "XoXo Yolo Swagitty XoXo
Like a true gentleman:cool:
Same thing here i have no "online" persona so the person you see here is exactly what people see in person, I dont want to spoil my name or anyones perception about me.
 

VenomX-90

"On your Knees!"
Wow, maybe you don't believe me but I had the same train of thought months ago, for me anger is a contagious infection and now I try to keep calm in real life and on internet most of the times, obviously is not an easy task but I manage to stop insulting (at least reduce the use of "hard" words) other people; I also try to be more tolerant towards others' opinions, but I must admit it is difficult to me. I think TYM needs this kind of talk right now, because I visit this site since 2011 and it is true it has change. I mean some people call it being negative when you differ or have a critique towards the game, a recent case for example could be cassey man-face, but I'm not talking about that kind of negativity, I mean the negativity product of the intolerance, like show in khrome threats for example. Anyway, I strongly recommend people to keep their minds at check, I mean try to be more tolerant and less disrespectful, I know I'm not the best example but I swear I'm trying!
I'd rather be pissed off than pissed on.
 

PaletteSwap

Misanthropiate
So lately i have been doing some self-reflecting...

sometimes on the internet i become a nastier person than i ever am in "real-life"(not saying i am satan, but i make mistakes), and I think that is dangerous because attitude is infectious towards other people and towards your own perception of the world. In reality, i try to be extra thankful and courteous to people i encounter, but on the internet i can be quick to prey on another person angrily (specifically when i am losing).

There are a lot of facctors that play a role in this. There is this whole attitude where the internet isn't "srs bizness," it has it's own social paradigm. now part of this is true, and i don't think people should get worked up over the internet, however what you say can effect people. On the other hand, there many distances created by the internet(similar to cars i might add) in which your mind can be allowed to "dehumanize" another person. There is the paradigm of the internet, there is the fact they have their own artificial persona, there is the safety and distance between, and most importantly they aren't living and breathing in front of you. That doesn't mean you cannot effect that person. And as i stated, negativity is infectious, violence whether emotional or physical has a way of perpetuating itself.

(now i am putting this in parentheses to explain this because i don't want to overly saturate this late night brain fart post, but i think the way violence perpetuates itself is that victims who are traumatized have a tendency to reduce the stress of that trauma through exposure to similar stimuli because that exposure reduces the strength of that stimulus(see later mere exposure), also they feel empowered rahter than being a helpless victim....empathy can incite anger because it's effect on consciousness is so strong that your mind rages at it defensively because it's too overstimulating [which is kind of funny because we view walling of your emotions as strong])


Forgive me for right now i am sleepy, and my grammar might be off. Sometimes i "subconsciously" utilize the internet as means of stress transfer. I utilize anger as a vessel for my stress, but it is not a long-term solution to the causal factors of that stress. Since is it short term, it means that stress can be replenished and in order to combat it i utilize the same tactic repeatedly. This could potentially cause a problem where i become "addictive" or "dependent" on anger to alleviate stress. Keep in mind this process has the potential to exponentiate because of the "mere exposure" effect. The mere exposure effect is an advertising term i learned where when you experience something once, the second time experiencing it is drastically reduced due to experience or the "mere exposure effect". So if i am merely exposed to my own anger, overtime i would require more of it to alleviate stress, so the general direction of my life could gravitate to that state in a perpetual spiral.

Now, if i victimize other people with my own anger, they will in tune perpetuate that anger and i will create an angrier world without much happiness. It has a way of snowballing out of control. So i guess, i should find better ways to reduce stress and in general focus on long-term solutions.


Sorry if i used TYM as a thought billboard... I don't know if i am normal
This is one of the best threads I've ever read on TYM. I've been really into things pertaining to self delusion, normalization of trauma, and dehumanization as a coping mechanism of depression/insecurity. Consider yourself followed.

I guess I could say I have a separate persona on the internet, but I wouldn't say it's a separate entity entirely. It's really just a toned down, more dull version of who I am to ensure that I'm understood properly. I have high functioning autism, or Asperger's Syndrome, and I have a hard time not offending people in real life because the subtleties I do pick up on I often misinterpret.

The thing that backfires online is, if I can't accurately gauge someone's demeanor in real life, how could I do so on teh internets? So while I am more reserved online than I am in person, I often perceive neutral remarks as aggressive, smug, or sarcastic. That's when I bite back and pull out the hate, and sometimes it's slightly justified (not really), but a lot of the time an argument arises out of harmless remarks.

Perception is HUGE. And hate absolutely is contagious. Be nice to each other, but fight against those who blatantly bully and exploit. There's an awesome saying from an anarchist named Derek Jensen: "Pacifism does not imply love."
 
This is one of the best threads I've ever read on TYM. I've been really into things pertaining to self delusion, normalization of trauma, and dehumanization as a coping mechanism of depression/insecurity. Consider yourself followed.

I guess I could say I have a separate persona on the internet, but I wouldn't say it's a separate entity entirely. It's really just a toned down, more dull version of who I am to ensure that I'm understood properly. I have high functioning autism, or Asperger's Syndrome, and I have a hard time not offending people in real life because the subtleties I do pick up on I often misinterpret.

The thing that backfires online is, if I can't accurately gauge someone's demeanor in real life, how could I do so on teh internets? So while I am more reserved online than I am in person, I often perceive neutral remarks as aggressive, smug, or sarcastic. That's when I bite back and pull out the hate, and sometimes it's slightly justified (not really), but a lot of the time an argument arises out of harmless remarks.

Perception is HUGE. And hate absolutely is contagious. Be nice to each other, but fight against those who blatantly bully and exploit. There's an awesome saying from an anarchist named Derek Jensen: "Pacifism does not imply love."
I think you persona constantly varies always based up on the set of social situations regardless of who you are and regardless of the amount it varies. Some cases are more severe then others but everyone differs atleast slightly. Just like i think everybody utilizes portions of the various personality disorders to some degree.

I think that in some cases autism is a result of hypersensitivity due to exceptional processing abilities, and as a result of this certain things are shut off because the sensitivity is too strong. So i think that's why people who are "high functioning" people are often very intelligent. And i perceieve an actual weakness in a lot of people (not people with asperger's) whom are easily offended or fearful in certain social situations, and fail to empathize and create a more personal social situation. I think the less offendable you are the more i like you.
 

aldazo

Waiting for Havik
I'd rather be pissed off than pissed on.
but it's not like that, nobody is pissing on you, if someone is mad then let him be, never go to that level. Let me search a smart quote I read before. I will edit my post accordingly.
EDIT: Oh well I didn't find the one I was looking for but this one from Seneca is almost the same: "Anger, if not restrained, is frequently more hurtful to us than the injury that provokes it."
 
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VenomX-90

"On your Knees!"
but it's not like that, nobody is pissing on you, if someone is mad then let him be, never go to that level. Let me search a smart quote I read before. I will edit my post accordingly.
But its more fun that way, to get mad and have hate flow through.
 

PaletteSwap

Misanthropiate
But its more fun that way, to get mad and have hate flow through.
Don't take this too personally, but getting enjoyment out of anger and hatred is an indication that something is wrong psychologically. It's quite common because we live in such a neurotic era.