Match-up Discussion 2013 Ermac MU Chart

[Qwark28]

It could be 6 - 4 Scarlet. She is a very solid character if played correctly and up close Ermac does have problems against her. The thing is though if she guesses wrong, bye bye 40% of her life. Lol at 9-1 lion. You are pretty solid man, so i wouldnt say that.

except she builds meter ridiculously fast and everytime she uses it she actually gets a lot in return

 

[Metzos]

except she builds meter ridiculously fast and everytime she uses it she actually gets a lot in return

Agreed.

 

[zaf]

except she builds meter ridiculously fast and everytime she uses it she actually gets a lot in return

Double agreed.

 

[Seven]

Seven Qwark28

Seven man you got to stop this i play these people online stuff lol.
I mean its a good place to get the feel for some match ups, but its dictating your numbers and who you think is good and HOW you play mus.

1 month ago i was in nyc playing against crazy dominicans skarlet. His is one of the best and it's not online. He is the skarlet player to rank the highest with her.

Ermac can jump on anyone online. Offline its different man, come on.
And yes skarlet can AA offline. CD was doing it.

Everything qwark said is right man.
When she has meter you cant be zoning her.

Her dagger cancel game is insane.

She can shoot them and slowly walk closer to you while canceling them and shooting more. Who cares about its shit damage, its utility is what matters. If you try to jump on this, you get standing 1 or 4.

When she has no meter for armor go crazy and zone. But when she has armor, block properly and get out. Her chip is retarded good.

Edit: just re read qwarks post about this mu again. Fucking qwark lol, you talk as if you play ermac as a main sometimes.

I give this mu slight advantage to skarlet, as she builds great meter

Online is important, if the connection is decent, it's very close to offline. AAs are harder to do online, but besides that the game doesn't play very different offline. It's not like if there's an amazing player online, that they could suck offline.

And since you're played more Skarlets than me, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, I changed the MU, BUT THIS WILL BE THE FINAL CHANGE!! (unless new tech is discovered)

 

[Metzos]

Online is important, if the connection is decent, it's very close to offline. AAs are harder to do online, but besides that the game doesn't play very different offline. It's not like if there's an amazing player online, that they could suck offline.

And since you're played more Skarlets than me, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, I changed the MU, BUT THIS WILL BE THE FINAL CHANGE!! (unless new tech is discovered)

Word of advice. Dont create MU's based on online testing, or if you intend to do so, then say its an online MU chart. Even if the connection is good, it still differs than playing offline, even by half a second. I ve met many online players with high records who couldnt even AA properly offline cause they were used playing in a laggy environment. It takes time to get used to playing from online to offline environment. I have been there.

EDIT: Also just because a high lvl player uses a character which is not his/her main does not mean he/she has a good understanding of the MU. If that was the case, MU discussions would be pointless. Online is good only for learning MU's to a certain extent and nothing more. Keep that in mind.

 

[Seven]

Word of advice. Dont create MU's based on online testing, or if you intend to do so, then say its an online MU chart. Even if the connection is good, it still differs than playing offline, even by half a second. I ve met many online players with high records who couldnt even AA properly offline cause they were used playing in a laggy environment. It takes time to get used to playing from online to offline environment. I have been there.

EDIT: Also just because a high lvl player uses a character which is not his/her main does not mean he/she has a good understanding of the MU. If that was the case, MU discussions would be pointless. Online is good only for learning MU's to a certain extent and nothing more. Keep that in mind.

The MU chart I made was for offline, but I used some online experience too. Btw I've played a good Skarlet offline, his name is Mosp.

 

[Eddy Wang]

The MU chart I made was for offline, but I used some online experience too. Btw I've played a good Skarlet offline, his name is Mosp.

So basically you're Saying you kept jumping over Mosp and he was looking at you every time you jumped.

 

[Qwark28]

Online is important, if the connection is decent, it's very close to offline. AAs are harder to do online, but besides that the game doesn't play very different offline. It's not like if there's an amazing player online, that they could suck offline.

And since you're played more Skarlets than me, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, I changed the MU, BUT THIS WILL BE THE FINAL CHANGE!! (unless new tech is discovered)

You don't understand, you're not doing us a "favour" by changing the MU number, you're doing what any self respecting player'd do. Accepting onlines bad & being educated by other more experienced ermac & skarlet.

 

[Eddy Wang]

This thread is full of lols, you guys made my week.
Qwark28 just nailed this thread ^^

Thank you all, Seven, zaf Metzos LionHeart and of course Qwark
I'll keep laughting every time i enter here.

 

[Seven]

So basically you're Saying you kept jumping over Mosp and he was looking at you every time you jumped.

Well when I jump at someone point blank, I usually do a kick+force blast.

 

[Eddy Wang]

Well when I jump at someone point blank, I usually do a kick+force blast.

Yes you do. There is nothing strange on everything you explained to me.

 

[Seven]

Yes you do. There is nothing strange on everything you explained to me.

And when I do jump at Skarlet, she has no answer!!

 

[Seven]

Yes you do. There is nothing strange on everything you explained to me.

Well she does, but her time is very hard.

 

[Death]

Every mu chart out there has online mus listed as the mu. It's just how it is. But saying good connections online is the same offline is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Eddy Wang]

And when I do jump at Skarlet, she has no answer!!

Wrong, the player you jump has no answer

 

[Seven]

Every mu chart out there has online mus listed as the mu. It's just how it is. But saying good connections online is the same offline is absolutely ridiculous.

I didn't say is was the SAME, I said it was close. You guys act like it's a different game online. Yes there is less AA and less pokes, but spacing and combos are the same.

 

[Eddy Wang]

Well she does, but her time is very hard.

That is what you see

 

[Eddy Wang]

I didn't say is was the SAME, I said it was close. You guys act like it's a different game online. Yes there is less AA and less pokes, but spacing and combos are the same.

yea, online is great and all but:
d1 is -13 and D3 is -7

 

[Death]

I didn't say is was the SAME, I said it was close. You guys act like it's a different game online. Yes there is less AA and less pokes, but spacing and combos are the same.

Of course it's different everything about it requires different timing

 

[Zoidberg747]

I didn't say is was the SAME, I said it was close. You guys act like it's a different game online. Yes there is less AA and less pokes, but spacing and combos are the same.

Because it is lmao

 

[Seven]

Of course it's different everything about it requires different timing

Online is a good learning tool.

 

[Red Reaper]

Online is important, if the connection is decent, it's very close to offline. AAs are harder to do online, but besides that the game doesn't play very different offline. It's not like if there's an amazing player online, that they could suck offline.

There's a lot that changes. Some character's moves kan no longer be hit konfirmed. Wiff punishing is no longer done on reaction. A lot of the reactionary game changes and it dumbs down the skill level required. Also, because of lag, some character's damage is technically lowered since they kan't do the higher damaging harder kombos.

Some characters are affected more than others and match ups definitely change from online to offline.

 

[Metzos]

This thread is full of lols, you guys made my week.
Qwark28 just nailed this thread ^^

Thank you all, Seven, zaf Metzos LionHeart and of course Qwark
I'll keep laughting every time i enter here.

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[Metzos]

Online is a good learning tool, to a certain degree.

Fixed it for you.

 

[zaf]

I didn't say is was the SAME, I said it was close. You guys act like it's a different game online. Yes there is less AA and less pokes, but spacing and combos are the same.

Combos are the easiest part of any fighter. It doesnt mean shit if you can land a combo, you need to hit first to be able to combo.

And when jumping becomes easier to do online, you see more combos.

Spacing online is terrible because it promotes more jumping, less actual footsies and less real poking.
Also i agree with reapor.