B. Shazzy
NRS shill #42069
the
only character that looks good is Erronlooks good to me?...
only character that looks good is Erronlooks good to me?...
Not to be rude or anythingWell they shouldn't. The series has survived without them before.
MK2 - No Sonya, no Kano.
MK3 - No Scorpion, no Raiden, no Kitana, no Mileena, no Johnny Cage
UMK3 - No Raiden, no Johnny Cage
MKT - Everybody is here game
MK4 - No Kano, no Kitana, no Mileena, No Kung Lao
MK4G - Has pretty much all of the classics minus Kano
MKDA - No Liu Kang, no Mileena
MKD - No Kitana, no Johnny, no Sonya, no Kano, no Kung Lao
MKA - Everybody is here
So its not like these characters are known to be in every single game, idk why they need to be nowadays.
No, it's not lacking in logic, in fact it is the only interpretation of Boon's "promise" that makes any sense whatsoever.Luckily, I can do basic math. So yes, I fully understand that 22 is bigger than 17. As I said though, having a "returning character from any game in the series" number count to "for the fans" is a bit lacking of logic and a stretch.
exactly, loved the hypocrisy when Boon said : "oh, Jacqui is a fan favorite " .... really ? everyone reaction when he said that shit :It is 100% decided by NRS. Skarlet and Jacqui were falsely said to be in high demand just to keep the pretense, when we all know they're in because NRS wants them to be. It's all just sweet talk. Don't ever pay attention to what devs say, just what they show.
A little bit of salt, yeah. I was choked jade wasnt in the last one, and disliked the mournful variation the same. Id say mileena, kit and jade are franchise characters. Scorp, sub and reptile in the same category. You put one, you need the others(i know about mk3, umk3 is arguably the dlc that corrected it ). You put any one of the female ninjas in, the other 2 are necessity imo. Those homage moves without any real amazing storyline behind how they came to be i think are, either lazy attempts to please fans, or big fuck yous to loyalists.I reckon using some iconic mileena's moves on Kitana is a big mistake. They should've just left her out this time. This is adding salt to the wound for mileena's fans.
It's all good im actually glad you pointed that out lolNot to be rude or anything
But ya left out Jax
I used to think making it Legacy like Tekken was a good idea, as that would mean larger rosters but I’ve seen with these three games that each game is mechanically better and more deep than the last(as unga bunga as X was it did have a lot more going on), and then picking 11 as a stopping point in terms of gameplay design just to set them down the path of legacy roster type development could mean we’re missing out on a better version of the game in what 12 would be had it followed the current path of near complete re-invention.I'm not saying it does have to.
But then: by your logic, what is the healthy next step for a series? You said it yourself. What is that "next best step" then? You want pure honesty?
I don't think not increasing the roster count at all is a "good step forward".
It's the only interpretation that makes sense because it was a dumb ass statement to make. I ignored your request because it's hella off topic to the point and I already know what your predictable reply would be.No, it's not lacking in logic, in fact it is the only interpretation of Boon's "promise" that makes any sense whatsoever.
What is lacking in logic is the silly idea that there is some hypothetical ideal roster that would make all the fans happy. I've asked you to list a roster that you think is foolproof, Jhonnykiller45 asked you, let's put your theory to the test. Let's see this "roster for the fans" that would make all the fans happy. You seem to think it's so easy to pick the right characters, so I'm not sure why you're hesitating.
Hey now, Jacqui is technically a fan favorite, she has fans no mater how comparatively few.exactly, loved the hypocrisy when Boon said : "oh, Jacqui is a fan favorite " .... really ? everyone reaction when he said that shit :
But if I recall, didn't they say some of these variations wouldn't even be allowed to be used online? That, and [imho] Tekken seems to still be more mechanically advanced than Mortal Kombat is. At least that I find it to be.I used to think making it Legacy like Tekken was a good idea, as that would mean larger rosters but I’ve seen with these three games that each game is mechanically better and more deep than the last(as unga bunga as X was it did have a lot more going on), and then picking 11 as a stopping point in terms of gameplay design just to set them down the path of legacy roster type development could mean we’re missing out on a better version of the game in what 12 would be had it followed the current path of near complete re-invention.
I think however they could have squeezed more characters in if they didn’t spend so much time on variations. That said I think the concept of variation is the better choice. But it didn’t work in X, it failed to do its job of giving us a good sized cast with deeper characters because most variations weren’t good enough.
This game is the last chance I’m giving them to make variations work, if they do then I think it’s better. It doesn’t allow for as many characters but allows the characters that make it in to be those most flexible and intricately designed they have ever been in the series, and that’s good for the game’s longevity and building up the individual characters themeselves.
...I don't even know where to start. The premise of your thread is that NRS did not live up to their promise of a "fan favorite" roster, so asking you what constitutes a successful fan favorite roster is literally the most on topic question I could have possibly asked you.I ignored your request because it's hella off topic to the point and I already know what your predictable reply would be.
"Oh, well YOU left out Sonya. Congrats! You made the players ANGRY!" My roster would include 25 top spots with four newcomers as well. It sure as hell would leave out Jax and Sonya and a few select others since I wouldn't retreat out of what the Kombat Kids were put in the game for.
Because either way, you know exactly what you were going to do. Why would I waste the time typing out anything of value so you could go "OH BUT YOU LEFT THIS OUT"....I don't even know where to start. The premise of your thread is that NRS did not live up to their promise of a "fan favorite" roster, so asking you what constitutes a successful fan favorite roster is literally the most on topic question I could have possibly asked you.
Second... you've been going on and on about how characters like Mileena and Smoke deserve to be in the game because they're so popular, and now you want to cut Sonya and Jax to make room for less popular characters like Cassie and Jacqui? Like, what? If you're going to take other things than popularity into account when deciding a roster, well then guess what, that's what NRS already did when they decided the MK11. So... NRS did exactly what you wanted them to do. It just didn't result in the roster you personally wanted? OK then.
Third... I'm not sure if you're aware, but Jax was the 9th most played character in MKX.
Kitana was 11th. Mileena was 13th. So if one of those 3 characters is getting cut based on popularity, oops, we're cutting Mileena again.
NRS just has an online system , that computes daily , how much a character is used on daily basis when a new MK game is released .... they had this statistic shit on MK9 , and MKX, and probably, we'll do again for MK11, so, if millions of online scrubs just pick Kollector, Geras and Cetrion, and make a huge impact in numbers by using them, bingo, NRS automatically consider them fan favorite, because the so called "fans" think these characters are cool ..... so, if Geras end being most used than Johnny Cage, in the next game, they will decide who keep up, and who sit out ....who are "the fans" if not the people who bought way more copies of MKX than they did MK9?
how do you graduate from online scrub to fan?NRS just has an online system , that computes daily , how much a character is used on daily basis when a new MK game is released .... they had this statistic shit on MK9 , and MKX, and probably, we'll do again for MK11, so, if millions of online scrubs just pick Kollector, Geras and Cetrion, and make a huge impact in numbers by using them, bingo, NRS automatically consider them fan favorite, because the so called "fans" think these characters are cool ..... so, if Geras end being most used than Johnny Cage, in the next game, they will decide who keep up, and who sit out ....
figure of speech ... that's ithow do you graduate from online scrub to fan?
ding ding ding lmaowho are "the fans" if not the people who bought way more copies of MKX than they did MK9?
Yep. Skarlet in MK11 is basically a Mileena/Tanya hybrid -- Shao Kahn's enforcer who rose from nothing, is one of the 'female ninjas' but they don't respect her, resents the Edenians for this (qv her intro with Jade). That's all Mileena stuff. Then she has Tanya's female Outworld sorcerer vibe going with the blood magic angle. She knocked them both out.Honestly, Mileena was traded for Skarlet this time around. People say Jade, but I don’t think she had much to do with it. I always held out hope, but as soon as I heard Skarlet talking about sucking people up and spitting out their bones I knew I was in trouble.
Honestly, Mileena was traded for Skarlet this time around. People say Jade, but I don’t think she had much to do with it. I always held out hope, but as soon as I heard Skarlet talking about sucking people up and spitting out their bones I knew I was in trouble.
yep , you're all right here, agreed withding ding ding lmao
Yep. Skarlet in MK11 is basically a Mileena/Tanya hybrid -- Shao Kahn's enforcer who rose from nothing, is one of the 'female ninjas' but they don't respect her, resents the Edenians for this (qv her intro with Jade). That's all Mileena stuff. Then she has Tanya's female Outworld sorcerer vibe going with the blood magic angle. She knocked them both out.