Complaining about deadshot? I have a ? for you.

[jackempty0]

When I mentioned Destroyer beating Deadshot in tourney today it was, "you gotta admit Atrocitus trait is strong".

When I mention Supergirl is likely a bad MU it was "well not everyone can teleport on reaction for combo".

Now Sonic loses to King and I'm reading "Not every character can counter zone and do 50%+ damage combos".

What's next? Lol I give up.

this right here... wow. people just want it easy. they dont want to work for it.

 

[jackempty0]

Characters that have tools to deal with the zoning can deal with Deadshot. Most characters don't have specific options, just universal ones. It's not inherently a bad thing it's just dumb and boring to play and watch. Regardless of what some think, that matters for the longevity of the game.

Zoning is awesome but you can't just gloss over a possible issue for the sake of encouraging zoning. No other character that zones in this game are like Deadshot. Most scrubs are complaining about zoning in general, that isn't the issue. Deadshot is on a completely different level.

not everyone thinks it is boring. but i kind of agree with you that it may be bad for the game because of scrubs and casuals.

 

[KiD INsAnitY]

not everyone thinks it is boring. but i kind of agree with you that it may be bad for the game because of scrubs and casuals.

Its boring.

 

[HeroesNZ]

Personally I think that if there are any complaints to be had it should be about Deadshot's rushdown, not his zoning.

His zoning is fine since that what he's supposed to do, but giving him such good rushdown on top of that is a questionable decision by NRS. You know it's a strange design choice when you're up against one of the best zoners in the game and you end up losing most of your life bar getting mixed in the corner.

In fact you know it's a strange design choice when the zoners have as good as if not better mixups than the rushdown characters.

 

[jackempty0]

Its boring.

i dont think so

 

[STRYKIE]

I'm a bit late to this thread, and I'm just looking from the outside in since I don't have the game yet. But I'd say his zoning IS bearable, recovery, meter build and chip all withstanding. The problem is that as others have mentioned, he does still have plenty of good buttons in close quarters without really having to use resources to get juice out of them, which in turn just gives him leeway to save his meter for, well, zoning...

But that's just my opinion for what it's worth. A lot of other new characters might have the same kind of skewed economics that nobody has really deciphered yet. Let's not start preaching "just one patch" right after "one more patch" just got exposed as a pack of fibs at the end of MKXL.

 

[SaltShaker]

In fact you know it's a strange design choice when the zoners have as good as if not better mixups than the rushdown characters.

I remember in the watchtower a while back they said that his OH F23 couldn't be cancelled and it was unsafe. I wonder what happened between then and now that made it change? I guess Paulo and I finally agree on something.


#BuffDeadshot

 

[BigMacMcLovin]

ITT: People crying over Ls and not listening to the advice being given to help them in the future

 

[hkriderz]

Its Day 1.5 of Injustice 2. I haven't played against a Deadshot yet, and have no reason to complain about him, but looking at the recovery of that high gunshot literally made my jaw drop in utter shock lol

Also, why does this character have safe 50 50 launchers again?

 

[B. Shazzy]

its my game and ill cry about deadshot if i want to lul

 

[M.D.]

Beat me to it, but by definition there's nothing OP with all the MUs today, and it's Sonic.

Also, no one knows these MUs. I was waiting to see if anyone would blow up his gaps, like Batman with Bats during B12 string, since these are the high level players and I literally didn't see it one time. Not enough time to know how to fight these characters yet.

Is there a video of this for the internet challenged people ? Please?

 

[God Confirm]

word cloud for this thread

 

[GAV]

To use your wording: You were talking a lot of smack 10 minutes ago, and now it's "Well no one knows these matchups, not enough time to learn to fight the Day 2 version of Deadshot who has no meta or tech yet"

Haha. Anyway, I don't particularly care, just thought it was an ironic twist of fate

 

[Wigy]

Mindless zoning 3.0 inbound

 

[Juggs]

not everyone thinks it is boring. but i kind of agree with you that it may be bad for the game because of scrubs and casuals.

It's not just scrubs which is my point. I've seen some of the best players saying Deadshot is braindead (publicly and privately), shit even ChrisG the UMvC3 zoning GOD said he was busted. Which a bit funny since he was a tester.

 

[Eldriken]

Zoning was so bad in MKX that people can't accept the fact that their character MIGHT just be a little TOO strong in some regards in this game.

Broke? No. OP? No. Unfair? Perhaps, but not all around.

Take a breath, sit back and take a real look at what people are legitimately saying (exclude the whiners and sissies because there's far too many of them) and think to yourself if they may have a point.

Before ridiculing people who are trying to have an actual discussion, why not, y'know, DISCUSS it with them as well?

People whine and complain all the time about how toxic members are here and those very same people are the effing problem because they don't want their character being touched right now.

More discussing, less condescension and bitching.

 

[ienjoywinning]

Personally I think that if there are any complaints to be had it should be about Deadshot's rushdown, not his zoning.

His zoning is fine since that what he's supposed to do, but giving him such good rushdown on top of that is a questionable decision by NRS. You know it's a strange design choice when you're up against one of the best zoners in the game and you end up losing most of your life bar getting mixed in the corner.

In fact you know it's a strange design choice when the zoners have as good as if not better mixups than the rushdown characters.

Exactly, for some reason people are fine with his mixups and the fact that they lead into good damage and +36 oki that gives you a free trait and still allows you to do whatever mixups you want.

 

[ienjoywinning]

Hope some of you were watching the stream so you can see how to beat a character.


#BuffDeadshot

Can you please link the stream , for arguement sake

 

[Juggs]

Zoning was so bad in MKX that people can't accept the fact that their character MIGHT just be a little TOO strong in some regards in this game.

Broke? No. OP? No. Unfair? Perhaps, but not all around.

Take a breath, sit back and take a real look at what people are legitimately saying (exclude the whiners and sissies because there's far too many of them) and think to yourself if they may have a point.

Before ridiculing people who are trying to have an actual discussion, why not, y'know, DISCUSS it with them as well?

People whine and complain all the time about how toxic members are here and those very same people are the effing problem because they don't want their character being touched right now.

More discussing, less condescension and bitching.

Yeah, I saw it as scrubs bitching at first. Then I ran into a Deadshot, then I picked Deadshot up. As someone who is using Deadshot, he is undeniably a top 5 character in the current meta of the game (Day 3). People see Deadshot complaints as an attack on zoning, but it isn't, that's what the scrubs are complaining about, not us.

It's hard to explain concisely enough to where I'm not writing a story and so people actually read this. And it IS only Day 3. But just keep in mind not every complaint is invalid.

 

[The Farmer]

and the answer is what exactly? let me spam mommy?

mommy says i'm special because i know which of my 3 zoner moves to spam and when!

You need permission from your mom?

 

[God Confirm]

I'm not making any statement on whether or not Deadshot needs nerfs cause idc, but people saying that playing him is hard or that zoning is just flat harder than rushdown in general is just... so stupid.

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

Yeh yeh all pretty ok but can we stop insulting people by saying they are like girls? Thank you.

Just bc u are offended does not make u right. Ever see a 12 yo girl fight? It was a reference. Don't be so sensitive

 

[Juggs]

What we should all be complaining about is why does Supergirl have some of the lowest damage in the game? She's one of the only two Kryptonians in the game and she hits like a girl scout. This is the real issue, here.

 

[The_Tile]

What we should all be complaining about is why does Supergirl have some of the lowest damage in the game? She's one of the only two Kryptonians in the game and she hits like a girl scout. This is the real issue, here.

Fuck Supergirl

*dislike*

 

[Juggs]

Fuck Supergirl

*dislike*

Get that a$$ banned! @ mods!!!!!