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Dude give me a break your telling me now that we dont have a guaranteed 50/50 vortex and our damage is shit that smoke is just fine give me a break im done with you. they dint even fix his wiffing issues smoke has more holes in his game now. honestly look at the character compared to others like johny milena dvorah he just can not compete. the guaranteed vortex gave him some sort of dirt now we have nothing thanks NRS 30 dollars wastedDude. Smoke is still doing the exact same shit. The ONLY actual nerf that affects him is the damage reduction. You're acting like they took EVERYTHING away from him, and he basically didn't even change. He is intact outside of damage. Normal smoke bomb is actually not even punishable anymore. His vortex actually BENEFITS from the slower b3.
Like, I'm more or less convinced you're just trolling right now. Because you'd have to be one ignorant person to actually think Smoke really got "insane" nerfs.
Damnit that sucksI wish
Like I've been saying, b3 is still guaranteed off of 21. You have to block that or you're just going to get looped into it over and over again. If you want a 100% guaranteed vortex, you have to do j2. But realistically, the opponent is going to block anyway so that b3 doesn't hit. Mix things up right, and it legit doesn't even matter.Dude give me a break your telling me now that we dont have a guaranteed 50/50 vortex and our damage is shit that smoke is just fine give me a break im done with you. they dint even fix his wiffing issues smoke has more holes in his game now. honestly look at the character compared to others like johny milena dvorah he just can not compete. the guaranteed vortex gave him some sort of dirt now we have nothing thanks NRS 30 dollars wasted
Don't tag me in here
except the game isn't only made frame advantage / speedFor real, actually read the changes and look at his frame data.
on paper yesDude. Smoke is still doing the exact same shit. The ONLY actual nerf that affects him is the damage reduction.
Hold on, why are you whiff punishing with b3? F1 and f4 are your go to whiff punishers, not b3.except the game isn't only made frame advantage / speed
hitbox, hurtbox and range are to be considered too
smoke is without range on pokes, those 4 more frames on b3 weigh a ton for whiff punishes
on paper yes
for real not, working your way in with his previous tools still required brain to bait the opponent into something that could've been jumped out on reaction
and the advantages we had on those hits was the perfect tradeoff once you got in
walk back and backdashes are going to be our nightmare
smoke would've been saved if, in addition to the actual nerfs that are still somewhat justifiable, f4 d1 would've been an overhead, universal b1 SB combo, teleport didn't trade with basically everything and the whole 111 chain revisited with less negative frames and gaps
on top of that they should've fixed his whiffing problem first
I believe smoke got the short end of the stick because of cyrax..the variation system is still stupid to me because there's no way to normalize one without affecting the others
If our character actually had footsies and a good neutral.LOL ok guys sorry you all have to actually play footsies, have fundamentals and spacing, and be mindful before making a decision now. Sorry for your nerfs I guess but hey how about stop sobbing about what's not gonna be undone, and learn how to play fighting games now and deal with trying to improve yourself as a player instead of relying on your character to do it all for you.
You think his vortex has been benefited? GTFODude. Smoke is still doing the exact same shit. The ONLY actual nerf that affects him is the damage reduction. You're acting like they took EVERYTHING away from him, and he basically didn't even change. He is intact outside of damage. Normal smoke bomb is actually not even punishable anymore. His vortex actually BENEFITS from the slower b3.
Like, I'm more or less convinced you're just trolling right now. Because you'd have to be one ignorant person to actually think Smoke really got "insane" nerfs.
Oh dear.LOL ok guys sorry you all have to actually play footsies, have fundamentals and spacing, and be mindful before making a decision now. Sorry for your nerfs I guess but hey how about stop sobbing about what's not gonna be undone, and learn how to play fighting games now and deal with trying to improve yourself as a player instead of relying on your character to do it all for you.
Read my reasoning.You think his vortex has been benefited? GTFO
Yes I play smoke.What the hell are you talking about smoke is not fine do you even play the character we dont have any armor no damage no guaranteed vortex no fast teleport no fast projectile b21 whiffs all the time tell me how is smoke still fine