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Breakthrough - Dragons Fire a lesson to be learnt in frame data lol

Braindead

I want Kronika to step on my face
I just did like 15 minutes of training trying to make B1 beat Reptile's dash after a blocked s1 or MB FK, and it just trades I never got to beat it.

So as much as it pains me to say, yeah B1 looks to b1 10f not 9.

EDIT: Nvm, Reptile's dash is a reversal so it comes out in 7f not 8, that means B1 is 9f since it can trade with it.
 
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YoloRoll1stHit

Publicly Educated
So i always assumed that reversal Roll escaped Kang's pressure into B12 due to low profiling, but this could be the reason as to why it works. Even though some might not appreciate it, i do so good find @xarakamaka
Roll is actually as fast as a 7 frame normal poke. And do you know it can interrupt the gap in Lao's 44 string for full combo meterless lol
 

Wigy

There it is...
Yey, have to be frame perfect to trade a poke.

:DOGE

Good job testing this though buddy.

Also, inb4 a character turn out to have a 9frame poke.
 
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xxFalcon Loverxx

Ignorant slaves, how quickly you forget.
Erron black does NOT.
According to your information,only characters with 7 frame moves can escape it right?
So erron doesn't have that.Btw I'm pretty sure that there are other characters that can't escape it too.
@Tom Brady said that it is a block infinite on characters that DON'T have 7 or less than 7 frame moves.
So does Jason.
It works on kenshi too
 

AK L0rdoftheFLY

I hatelove this game
Erron black does NOT.
According to your information,only characters with 7 frame moves can escape it right?
So erron doesn't have that.Btw I'm pretty sure that there are other characters that can't escape it too.
@Tom Brady said that it is a block infinite on characters that DON'T have 7 or less than 7 frame moves.
So does Jason.
8 frames trade and 7 frames or less should win
 
Well I always felt like there was a delay after Double Dragon kick into EN Bicycle kick. I also believe F2,1,3 nerf was unjust.
And.. buff his air normals please haha
 

xxFalcon Loverxx

Ignorant slaves, how quickly you forget.
@xarakamaka sounds like youve put the work in so b1 is 10 frames, that means people need to work on their execution (aka Go training and learn timing)

Just frame escape if LK is just framing his b1 for 7 frames and just frame trade with 8 frames is still scary as fuck though, in time people will realise the patches are few and far between and will stop whining and hit the lab. Good shit, no more excuses!
*FacePalm* "Hit the lab" Ok, I've "Hit The Lab" i have.But if this shit isn't a true infinite against my character,my mind will explode.I've tried really hard,i couldn't lol.imo liu's execution is overrated.Actually i think flame fist is harder than dragon's fire,yes kill me.:coffee: Why?You ask, well it's because when you practice those cancels once and get them down liu kang isn't mid tier as said by liu downplayers.He is godlike!!They get so easy after some practice.Try doing f44xxfbf4xxdd1xxfbf4xxbf3 in flame fist,you can't can you? I can do dd1xxfbf4 but doing it after windmill punches is just HARD.Prove me wrong,I'll change my opinion.:coffee:

Edit: I'm sorry if i sounded more agressive

than you may think i just wanna know the reason liu kang is downplayed so much.
 
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smokey

EX Ovi should launch
*FacePalm* "Hit the lab" Ok, I've "Hit The Lab" i have.But if this shit isn't a true infinite against my character,my mind will explode.I've tried really hard,i couldn't lol.imo liu's execution is overrated.Actually i think flame fist is harder than dragon's fire,yes kill me.:coffee: Why?You ask, well it's because when you practice those cancels once and get them down liu kang isn't mid tier as said by liu downplayers.He is godlike!!They get so easy after some practice.Try doing f44xxfbf4xxdd1xxfbf4xxbf3 in flame fist,you can't can you? I can do dd1xxfbf4 but doing it after windmill punches is just HARD.Prove me wrong,I'll change my opinion.:coffee:

Edit: I'm sorry if i sounded more agressive

than you may think i just wanna know the reason liu kang is downplayed so much.
If you cant even do bnb combos with liu kang then hit the lab more.
 

omooba

fear the moobs
When ever I've tried it he always b1's me out of it
Does it require frame perfect timing or something?
Edit:I main erron black I'm pretty sure he can't get out of it,or am i just spreading false information?
i play both characters i usually beat erron black more than i beat lui with erron black in this situation but i think that's just cus my timing is better with liu. there's a lot of times when i input it perfectly but trade
 

xxFalcon Loverxx

Ignorant slaves, how quickly you forget.
i play both characters i usually beat erron black more than i beat lui with erron black in this situation but i think that's just cus my timing is better with liu. there's a lot of times when i input it perfectly but trade
I can't get it down but I'll practice later on tho
 

xxFalcon Loverxx

Ignorant slaves, how quickly you forget.
If you cant even do bnb combos with liu kang then hit the lab more.
Just so you know if that is his bnb than f44 fbrc 113 and f44 fbrc f44 is his bnb too right? Never knew i was doing the hardest variation's hardest fbrc 's online :)
 

smokey

EX Ovi should launch
Special canceling f44 shaolin flames cancel is his bnb? Ok
This threads talking specifically about DF flying kick into b1, its gonna be a just frame input for you to get out of that with Erron Black so whatever you said isnt even relevant, why does it matter if anyone can do f44 windmill~buff~windmill or if its hard? You dont get infinited by Liu Kang so cheer up and go practice that just frame!
 
I thought b1 was 10 frames for the last like 4 months or so , I've proven my end, if anyone wants to prove me wrong then please be my guest but I'm not testing this anymore, other people test the same thing for an hour after FK MB , i feel a little crazy after it :D haha
No it's 9 frames! You sound stupid. I'll prove it when I get home, and you'll look stupid
 

WITNESS

Worlds Famous
*FacePalm* "Hit the lab" Ok, I've "Hit The Lab" i have.But if this shit isn't a true infinite against my character,my mind will explode.I've tried really hard,i couldn't lol.imo liu's execution is overrated.Actually i think flame fist is harder than dragon's fire,yes kill me.:coffee: Why?You ask, well it's because when you practice those cancels once and get them down liu kang isn't mid tier as said by liu downplayers.He is godlike!!They get so easy after some practice.Try doing f44xxfbf4xxdd1xxfbf4xxbf3 in flame fist,you can't can you? I can do dd1xxfbf4 but doing it after windmill punches is just HARD.Prove me wrong,I'll change my opinion.:coffee:

Edit: I'm sorry if i sounded more agressive

than you may think i just wanna know the reason liu kang is downplayed so much.
What has any of this to with this thread?