xKhaoTik
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Hello Fellow TYMers!
Today I will be encouraging you guys to join the Green Army to take down the Big Mean Fish once and all!
Tired of being hit by tentacles from anywhere and not being able to punish? Tired of losing 400+ health? Tired of being killed on block? Tired of not being able to combo due to his trait? Well fear no more, as Poison Ivy is the answer to all your problems!
Now before I get into this, here are a few disclaimers, since I know how *clears throat* "misguided" some people can be:
-Ivy is NOT the best in the game
-Ivy is NOT top tier
-This is NOT a 10-0 MU
-Aquaman is STILL Top Tier
-Black Adam is STILL a good counter
Ok. Now I know you guys are probably thinking "why Ivy" or "wtf KhaoTik just use Black Adam". Well, I personally feel as if Ivy is better in the MU than Black Adam is. After talking to a few Aqua players, they told me they would much fight Black Adam than Ivy any day, and I agree with them. Obviously Black Adam is a good counter since he's so simple to use (f1 and a dream) and has good tools to deal with Aqua, so it's understandable why people run to him for that match. Ivy plays the MU better imo. Here's why:
For those who have played or seen the MU, you'll see that Ivy controls the pace of the Match for the most part. She can safely zone him without worrying about a punish anywhere except point blank, while she can punish his zoning with drills, meaning she can zone and counter zone him. Punishing FTD with drills is a 4f window so you have to be ready and on point. If you miss the window, he still has to respect the drill regardless. Ivy can't sit back and just drill mindlessly tho because he can definitely sneak in a FTD if she's zoning carelessly. So yea she pretty much dominates Aquaman in the keepaway department. His zoning is one of his better tools and she pretty much shuts that down.
Upclose, Aqua definitely has the advantage. OHs, Lows, mixups, good buttons, etc. All better than what she has to offer upclose. The problem is, with all the zoning she'll be doing, she's definitely gonna have meter when he gets in, meaning she's able to just roll away, pushblock or armor. She's not gonna have meter everytime but it's just a thing to worry about regardless. Either way, his upclose game is very good against her. She can compete too but his is just better. He also shits on her when it comes to oki since her wakeup is so bad. She punishes trident rush for free tho. He outdamages her but her damage isn't no slouch either, especially in the corner. Barkskin is also a HUGE problem for him in the MU since he thrives on chip and damage. Barkskin makes her take no chip at all and she has multiple ways to set it up in the MU via knockdown, blocked FTD, ducked trident toss, etc. She also takes significantly less damage overall, hurting his damage output.
Both have amazing traits, but Ivy's is more dominant than his in this MU. Her trait just makes her already effective zoning against him that much better, making it even harder for him to make a read with a counter zone attempt or even move in. Even tho his trait stops combos, he still takes increased damage thru chip, and 213/F213/121213 takes full effect of that. If she has meter, she can go right into MB Datura to continue the chip and use any ender to make it safe due to the pushback.
If aqua gets the life lead, what is he going to do? He can't just sit back because she'll chip him with safe zoning. He can't zone because it's punishable anywhere on the screen. He has no choice but to stay on the offense. Aqua is a strong offensive and defensive character but her tools makes his defense almost non existent, making him stay on the offense. All she has to do is score a knockdown and she can play her game, whether she has the life lead or not.
TL;DR: She zones him strongly but has to be smart with it. Barkskin hurts his damage output since she takes less damage AND no chip. Her trait makes the zoning that much better and his counter attempts that much harder, while his trait makes her not get combos but she capitalizes with safe damaging chip. He bullies her upclose and on knockdown.
If that isn't enough, here's a quote from arguably the best Aquaman player:
So that's pretty much why I think she does better than Black Adam. Adam is FAR easier to use tho so I understand it, but I'm just recommending another option just in case your Adam can't do it.
Discuss.
Today I will be encouraging you guys to join the Green Army to take down the Big Mean Fish once and all!
Tired of being hit by tentacles from anywhere and not being able to punish? Tired of losing 400+ health? Tired of being killed on block? Tired of not being able to combo due to his trait? Well fear no more, as Poison Ivy is the answer to all your problems!
Now before I get into this, here are a few disclaimers, since I know how *clears throat* "misguided" some people can be:
-Ivy is NOT the best in the game
-Ivy is NOT top tier
-This is NOT a 10-0 MU
-Aquaman is STILL Top Tier
-Black Adam is STILL a good counter
Ok. Now I know you guys are probably thinking "why Ivy" or "wtf KhaoTik just use Black Adam". Well, I personally feel as if Ivy is better in the MU than Black Adam is. After talking to a few Aqua players, they told me they would much fight Black Adam than Ivy any day, and I agree with them. Obviously Black Adam is a good counter since he's so simple to use (f1 and a dream) and has good tools to deal with Aqua, so it's understandable why people run to him for that match. Ivy plays the MU better imo. Here's why:
For those who have played or seen the MU, you'll see that Ivy controls the pace of the Match for the most part. She can safely zone him without worrying about a punish anywhere except point blank, while she can punish his zoning with drills, meaning she can zone and counter zone him. Punishing FTD with drills is a 4f window so you have to be ready and on point. If you miss the window, he still has to respect the drill regardless. Ivy can't sit back and just drill mindlessly tho because he can definitely sneak in a FTD if she's zoning carelessly. So yea she pretty much dominates Aquaman in the keepaway department. His zoning is one of his better tools and she pretty much shuts that down.
Upclose, Aqua definitely has the advantage. OHs, Lows, mixups, good buttons, etc. All better than what she has to offer upclose. The problem is, with all the zoning she'll be doing, she's definitely gonna have meter when he gets in, meaning she's able to just roll away, pushblock or armor. She's not gonna have meter everytime but it's just a thing to worry about regardless. Either way, his upclose game is very good against her. She can compete too but his is just better. He also shits on her when it comes to oki since her wakeup is so bad. She punishes trident rush for free tho. He outdamages her but her damage isn't no slouch either, especially in the corner. Barkskin is also a HUGE problem for him in the MU since he thrives on chip and damage. Barkskin makes her take no chip at all and she has multiple ways to set it up in the MU via knockdown, blocked FTD, ducked trident toss, etc. She also takes significantly less damage overall, hurting his damage output.
Both have amazing traits, but Ivy's is more dominant than his in this MU. Her trait just makes her already effective zoning against him that much better, making it even harder for him to make a read with a counter zone attempt or even move in. Even tho his trait stops combos, he still takes increased damage thru chip, and 213/F213/121213 takes full effect of that. If she has meter, she can go right into MB Datura to continue the chip and use any ender to make it safe due to the pushback.
If aqua gets the life lead, what is he going to do? He can't just sit back because she'll chip him with safe zoning. He can't zone because it's punishable anywhere on the screen. He has no choice but to stay on the offense. Aqua is a strong offensive and defensive character but her tools makes his defense almost non existent, making him stay on the offense. All she has to do is score a knockdown and she can play her game, whether she has the life lead or not.
TL;DR: She zones him strongly but has to be smart with it. Barkskin hurts his damage output since she takes less damage AND no chip. Her trait makes the zoning that much better and his counter attempts that much harder, while his trait makes her not get combos but she capitalizes with safe damaging chip. He bullies her upclose and on knockdown.
If that isn't enough, here's a quote from arguably the best Aquaman player:
So that's pretty much why I think she does better than Black Adam. Adam is FAR easier to use tho so I understand it, but I'm just recommending another option just in case your Adam can't do it.
Discuss.
