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B1 is nice but B14 is poo since the 4 has like 1/4th the range of B1 lol. It's nice but if I want to check people, I'd rather use D4.
and Rai Cho in general is not a 'mixup' god. Have you played the other 70% of the cast?
B1 is nice but B14 is poo since the 4 has like 1/4th the range of B1 lol. It's nice but if I want to check people, I'd rather use D4.
Hmm I think it may be in kotals favor by a little bit. The gg crop duster tech helps a lot against blood and sun god.
You can literally turn any of his strings into a 50/50 with DB3 and he already has plenty of mix up strings. It's all on you to be random. Especially with Bartitsus variation.
your reasoning doesnt make sense to me... db3 is a combo ender/special move... his strings and mixups are extremely slow and mostly reactable and full of gaps... block high, then low and youre mostly fine against him. 3,4,1 is so easy to react to the overhead ender... besides that, db3 is not safe on block, almost everything he does is unsafe really ... bartitsu has crappy pressure, no great way to get out of good pressure, no armored launcher, no counter for zoning, bad walk/dash speed, etc etc... i just dont see how this variation isnt bottom tier...
You're making it seem as if though I said that DB3 is suppose to be a combo starter. It's a conditioning tool to use to eventually open up someone. I highly doubt you can solely react to his mix ups. You would have to guess if the momentum in his favor. No one even talks about his F3 cancels into low, grab, or just any mix up string. I don't even use 341 cause the first hit has short range and it's slow. I use mid starters such as B1 or B14 or B233 and at right range F11 but it starts as high.
no i dont make it seem like a combo starter, what im saying is its a knockdown move and it is not gonna make much of a difference in conditioning... all you have to is block high then low, if he catches you with db3 it leads to nothing. his mobility sucks and the only way youre gonna get pressure is in the corner. this variation is not good. simple zoning shuts him down and his frame data is sooooo slow. i will take the db3 anytime and continue high low block and punish all of his unsafe stuff or just armor through his millions of gaps
Take the db3? Leads to nothing? Eating all those flips will add up and most likely cost you the round. Landing a flip leaves you at +32 which gives you the option of spinning cane that breaks armor and conditions opponent to be more careful about waking up. All I'm saying is that Bo doesn't get enough credit for his mix ups and hit advantage from db3. It's his main armor breaking set up in that variation combined with spinning cane.
but blocking almost any of his strings leads to a full punish, im saying his risk doesnt make up for the reward... i love playing this character but he is ass... i would like to see some high level play proving me wrong
He can also cancel the first hit of B1 which is usually a mid overhead into low cane so it'd be a mid low and covert for a full combo for a bar. So you can start a combo off the full B1 or mix up by adding a low cane cane before the overhead hits. Either way, you get a combo for a bar. Yes his strings are punishable, don't get me wrong. It's all up to the player to be random.
we will have to agree to disagree, like i said i like playing him but he is bottom 5. he has too many drawbacks when you compare to the rest of the cast... i cant even think of one winning mu, he dominates nobody
I punish uppercuts with F11 into ex db2 . It's pretty consistent.
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Fair enough. Still, is there anything Bartitsu specifically can do?
You can pray that Sumo will trade in your favor lol. And as risky as it is in certain MUs, I almost always immediately go for a second one because the opponent is rarely expecting it. Hell, I've landed 4 in a row before.
Can't you just hit confirm into the safe DF2 if you see the opponent blocking?
It's not safe. There's a big old gap there. And in the case of 21, it's not cancellable.
There's still 431 to work with. Also a gap doesn't necessarily mean it's bad, it's just something you'll have to keep in mind so you can't just cancel into DF2 all day without taking any risks.
4()31 also has a gap lol.
Hm, didn't even know 43 had a gap. That's a really weird move to have one.
Lol F212 has not one gap, but TWO. F2 is a 15f high that should be a mid.