Why do people hate Injustice 2? Podcast Discussion.

Discussion in 'Podcasts, Shows & Archives' started by General M2Dave, Jul 14, 2018.

By General M2Dave on Jul 14, 2018 at 11:25 PM
  1. General M2Dave

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    Hello, everyone. Here is a treat for your ears that features Big D, Dab, REO, RM ATK, SylverRye, and Zyphox.



    Topics include but are not limited to the following.

    1) Why do people hate Injustice 2?

    2) Do anti-aerial attacks need to be better in the next NRS fighting game?

    3) Is Injustice 2 a counter pick fest at a high level?

    4) Do you agree with Sonic Fox when he says that Injustice 2 has a terrible neutral game?

    5) Should Mortal Kombat 11 have a ranking system for players?

    We hope you listen and enjoy the podcast. Please let us know which topics you would like us to discuss in the next episode.
     
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Discussion in 'Podcasts, Shows & Archives' started by General M2Dave, Jul 14, 2018.

    1. God Confirm
      God Confirm
      step your game up, need timestamps like the hippo and slips podcast, you're missing the bar
    2. General M2Dave
      General M2Dave
      Check the video description on YouTube.
      Rude, EdFig81, Cursa and 2 others like this.
    3. Cursa
      Cursa
      cause it boring
      TurboTaco, ChoseDeath, ZATA and 5 others like this.
    4. God Confirm
      God Confirm
      my apologies
      ChoseDeath and THTB like this.
    5. kabelfritz
    6. Cursa
      Cursa
      Man some of the YT comments on that are so cringe

      cool though, I agree with a lot of what has been said but I'm barely into it yet
    7. Cursa
      Cursa
      Not sure I agree with the whole 'no counterpick meta' sorta deal. It's more there because it's easy to pick up a pocket SF/Fate and just eliminate half of the 4-6 MU's for your main, rather than just have to work through them. Bee and Bio are probably the two big examples of this, Flash and Bane, moreso Bane, are characters that lose to a good chunk of popular characters like Fate and Starfire. Not impossible MU's or anything but why play into them if you could just lab for like a day or two for a pocket and make it even steven, maybe even win a couple of the matchups you went even with before?

      And I appreciate how Reo listed all of Raiden's up sides which are great and all if you ever get to use them
    8. Eddy Wang
      Eddy Wang
      The segment about armor as a launcher LMAO! Going to lauch till tomorrow
    9. GLoRToR
      GLoRToR
      Injustice 2 has the right ideas but the wrong execution. Yeah, neutral is busted but that's nothing new. Injustice 1 had no neutral either with the full screen presence bullshit. Like full screen lows and full screen launchers, get out of here with that NRS seriously.
    10. CrimsonShadow
      CrimsonShadow
      This title is clickbait/misleading, and people are going to comment without listening (the whole point of the video is that people don’t actually hate the game).

      REO had some really good/true things to say and I dig his positivity — it’s worth a listen.
    11. Tweedy
      Tweedy
      Bane probably beats Starfire imo. Could be even, though.
      kevkopdx likes this.
    12. Jynks
      Jynks
      I hate these kind of bias titles... it is like making a thread saying "why dose everyone hate puppies?" Sure there is always a section of people that hate anything, usually loudly. Still many people like it.. the arrogance and self serving nature of many threads really bug me. Before anything has even been said you have declared your bias and encouraged only those that agree with the premise you to speak.
      looneyloopz likes this.
    13. Cursa
      Cursa
      Reo still on the MK11 hype train
    14. neveradestroyer
      neveradestroyer
      forget it lul.
      Last edited: Jul 15, 2018
    15. General M2Dave
      General M2Dave
      People in the podcast do not hate the game, but you should read the YouTube comments, which are representative of the average stream monster. 90%+ are negative.

      Thank you for putting this podcast on the front page.
      Rude, Matix218, Rizz091 and 2 others like this.
    16. Eddy Wang
      Eddy Wang
      the perfect game will come believe it, Ed Boon will team up with Noah Levenstein and the ultimate NRS game will come

      [​IMG]
    17. CrimsonShadow
      CrimsonShadow
      I mean ‘the average stream’ monster should probably not be a barometer for a game though, as most of those people don’t support the community anyway.

      A good deal of them are not even in our community, but just show up to talk ish.

      They’ve been doing it since MK9 (complaining about block button, dial-a-combo, animations, etc).
      Marlow, Yoaks, Rizz091 and 1 other person like this.
    18. RexxyC
      RexxyC
      I ditched this game last year at some point, don't remember when. Something about it just felt off. I can list a bunch of stream of consciousness bullshit about it.

      I was so excited for Black Canary to be in one of these games and she released looking like Christina Applegate in the Anchorman movies, lmfao. I was expecting Ed Benes bad bitch Black Canary, and I got a stiffly animated middle aged mom. It was rough. The DLC was another big thing for me personally, I would have loved to see Zatanna back, or maybe Constantine, anything that could have lead to interesting magic/power designs. Instead of picking through the ocean of DC characters, they chose Hellboy, Raiden, and the TMNT. I fucking gagged. Starfire was a cool inclusion, but I would be lying if I said I'm not disappointed with her execution. Red Hood is just about on point. Who the fuck wanted to play Enchantress? Out of all the characters on the dark/magic side of DC they chose Enchantress. That's some really weak shit. Manta was cool, Atom is basically a non-factor. Atom would have been cool if they went with the Sword of Atom. They didn't though, and thus nobody gives a shit about Ryan Choi and his lame ass costume.

      The premium costume idea was really fucking cool but it seemed like it totally got dropped at a certain point, and while the cosmetic stuff with the loot system was cool, I'd rather it not return. If the next game launches and a zoning character is as good as Deadshot was, I'm not fucking buying it. Miss me w/ that get good shit, I know how to get around projectiles, it's just not a fun way to play the game on either side, and I don't see how they let it happen twice now.

      These stages need to get smaller and more inspired, like quickly. Release stage DLC too. Who the fuck cares about being on a random street in Metropolis? Put me in the Tower of Fate, or the Dreaming, or Madame Xanadu's shop. The House of Mystery, even. I'm not even sure I liked any of the stages in I2, they all felt so bland to me. The ones that stood out at the least were Atlantis and Slaughter Swamp. I mean holy shit, this is a universe rich with so many interesting locations and you put us at a shitty amusement park. Do something cool and put us in hell, have Lucifer Morningstar in the back doing something, don't put me in Arkham Asylum like ever again. Yall fucked that stage up two times in a row, one with shitty interactables, and then again with boring ass design. I mean please, just think outside of the box. How hasn't there been an Apokolips stage? New Genesis maybe?

      I think that's the main issue overall is that nobody is trying to think big enough. You could have one of the craziest and coolest fighting games out there featuring weird ass characters like Big Barda and Mister Miracle fighting Klarion the Witch Boy in a vibrant environment where things are actually going on in the background like one of Zatanna's Stage Shows, but instead we get a muted color palette and boring ass Batman characters.
    19. Roy Arkon
      Roy Arkon
      So you guys praised IJ2 and you did say some true stuff like the stuff regarding TMNT and Raiden, and now you even point at the comment section, which is why the title of this thread is indeed misleading and confusing and make it look bad despite the good and true stuff you said, but then you also ranting very hard about MKX, each of you in his own way, after you guys said yourself that "you can not like the game, that doesn't mean it's a shitty game", yet that's what you tried to say regarding MKX. And then, REO even blows up the community by saying "people should complain about Starfire's and Dr. Fate's jump attacks instead of their Zoning", as if he tried encourage people to bark at NRS just so they will patch IJ2 the way he wants. So basically he complained about the same game that he tried to praise along with you.

      I'm sorry but I find it very hard to take that podcast seriously.
    20. God Confirm
      God Confirm
      Is this just your catchphrase for everything? I saw you say that to me and like two other people in the last thread I clicked on with you in it, and that was in the space of a page or something.

      Everyone find you very hard to take seriously
      Last edited: Jul 15, 2018
    21. Cursa
      Cursa
      you can praise a game and complain about it at the same time, IJ2 is like the prime example of this, it's the most balanced of all the NRS games but probably gets the worst complaints out of all of them.

      tbh I agree with what he said about SF/Fate normals. I don't find the jump ins too bad but I play Robin/Bane and he plays Cyborg soooo. Fate B2 is a busted ass normal though idk why people are sleeping on it

      I don't think Reo meant to say MKX was a shitty game, or at least he didn't mean it like that. He probably meant more along the lines of "MKX had a lot of broke shit" which it did. Seemed like a slip of the tongue sorta moment but I could be wrong
      John_NX and Icefyre like this.
    22. Temp
      Temp
      Maybe. I feel like mkx got it worse, though (deservingly). I feel like the mkx haters were much more united and specific in their criticisms. The criticisms of IJ2 seem far more broad. The IJ2 haters don’t even seem hateful. They just seem bored.
      Icefyre and Cursa like this.
    23. Cursa
      Cursa
      I think ya gotta separate the people who have a good idea of what the faults of the game are and those who just either
      • Meme on it because it's the fun thing to do
      • Cry about all the zoning (which isn't really even the problem anymore imo)
      Like one of the top comments on there uses Deadshot as an example of why the game is busted, since he's been top 5 since the game release. They're the kinda people you have to avoid
    24. God Confirm
      God Confirm
      where? I put it to you to screenshot that because I can't see it anywhere

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