Here's something to throw a spanner in the works on the Madzin POV. He plays sub in bad match ups too, and has won them recently in tournament over the last 2 eu majors.
But this argument is kinda pointless, the results are always gonna be in Madzins favor because he attends more events.
I think I've actually attended more events or at least the same, I just never placed in the top a a major. I have 10 major events but 6 of my 10 events have resulted in 9th,9th,9th, 13th,13th,13th. I also have a top 32, and a 17th. I have a few regional events that im in the top 3 but no major wins or top 8 appearances at any majors. While I dont call these "results" and I plan on doing better this upcoming year, no one has had any better results with the character over here in the USA thus far and this is WITHOUT anything outside of practice mode due to the crap netcode. While Madzin was certainly the better SZ when the thread was made, his highest USA placing is 9th and that was with Kotal Kahn. As all SZ, his highest placing in the USA was 27th. I do not mean any offense to the eu guys but the tournaments there are much smaller and there is a thinner pool of tier 1 players. USA has more everything.. more good and more bad players because there are just more players in general. Its just much harder over here.
Another thing is that the DVorah I need to go through is Honeybee and this will be at every event. The Predator I need to go through is REO. Tekken Master is a BIG step down when it comes to those mu's, which I also may add it was 1/1 vs Predator and a loss vs his D'Vorah. Takeda? Nivek is a very good player but no way in hell is he on Raptor's level when it comes to the SR variation. Again, Madzin is 1/1 vs his Takeda. Tekken Master also used F/T and won a game and lost a game. No way can you compare Tekken Master's F/T to Bio's, they are not even close. These are all also single games and not even a complete set. For some of us, switching characters wont happen so we actually need to win the set and not just a single game.
Destroyer is a very good HQT Predator. He has made top 8 in ESL on 2 occasions. At SummerJam we were the final match to qualify for top 16 and it was a great and close set with me coming out on top. However, It was never even considered a great feat because it wasnt REO or FK's Predator despite the fact that he was still very good and Predator was his primary character and not is 5th character to be used as a counter. I've beaten Plenty of F/Ts in sets in tournament but it again was not considered anything because it wasn't Bio.
I hate getting into these discussions about facts but not all of the facts. It makes me look like the bad guy when I complete the picture. If it were me, you best believe every single fact would be covered as if it were an autobiography. I also do not care about anything other than winning NWM at this point. But I just had to add, winning a bad mu with a character doenst mean winning game 1, losing game 2, then switching game 3. Even vs Pig at ESL finals - Kenshi vs SZ is BARELY adv Kenshi, but after every loss to the character it was back to character select. Winning a game in a bad mu when its the guys 8th character is still tough and I credit that because it is still hard. But its much harder to win a set vs the best versions of those characters in the world over one game when its their 8th character.
Who the better SZ is does not matter. At these big tournaments over here we both lost with no top 8s. Foxy is right when he says its all about winning. I do not care who you guys love or hate or consider the best SZ. I want to win and thats all I care about. I finally have a way to level up with the new netcode and I certainly dont plan on spending time on worrying if im the best SZ when I could be grinding. Madzin is a great player, if you want to say he's the best then so be it. I can't worry about that and I have no issue with him being considered the best.
I hope we can just close this thread because it simply doesnt matter. No opinions will help me win, only playing non stop and getting better can do that. Id rather win and have a bad opinion on my level over lose and have a good one. This is the last time I will ever say anything on this matter or about "best sz". I really want to win so I have practice to do...
