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Match-up Discussion - Unbreakable What's wrong with me?

But I mean at what point do you stop blaming yourself and start to blame the connection? It's gotta be pretty high ping to miss either of those punishes.
I get what you're saying ("GIT GUD!") but how can latency not factor into punishes? Say I wanna punish Raidens microwave grab of death with SZ without spending a bar. I've practiced the run, 1, 1 ~ iceball and have it down consistently enough to actually go for it in matches. I do the inputs based on the visual cues I've used countless times offline, and instead of getting a quick run into 1,1, only a single 1 comes out and whiffs due to the distance not covered by the run that never came out cause the recovery frames are visually entirely different from what I've ingrained in my memory when practicing. I see your point though, and the fundamentals of ones gameplay should hold both offline / online, but the trickier punishes can be nigh impossible online. Atleast for me.
 

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But I mean at what point do you stop blaming yourself and start to blame the connection? It's gotta be pretty high ping to miss either of those punishes. Best to be honest with yourself and always try to give the game the benefit of the doubt. That'll make stronger players in the end.
The point that you mostly play offline, and never miss a single punish vs Ermac, but cannot punish it online? It's not a coincidence or luck, there is literally no other reason that Ermac isn't eating 35% multiple times over the course of a game.

So generally I just focus on trying to read my opponent and blocking the mix-ups. If can block 3 Soul Ball's or teleports vs Ermac a game online I chalk it up as a win.



I get what you're saying ("GIT GUD!") but how can latency not factor into punishes? Say I wanna punish Raidens microwave grab of death with SZ without spending a bar. I've practiced the run, 1, 1 ~ iceball and have it down consistently enough to actually go for it in matches. I do the inputs based on the visual cues I've used countless times offline, and instead of getting a quick run into 1,1, only a single 1 comes out and whiffs due to the distance not covered by the run that never came out cause the recovery frames are visually entirely different from what I've ingrained in my memory when practicing. I see your point though, and the fundamentals of ones gameplay should hold both offline / online, but the trickier punishes can be nigh impossible online. Atleast for me.
I'm not exactly sure what it is you are punishing, but are you sure it's not easier punished with F4?
 

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Unbreakable for life ftw
Or atleast till we get noob saibot
I've really tired myself of grandmaster
Maybe I should play with cryo a little more
 

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My Suggestion: Don't play Unbreakable until it gets buffed. Treat it like Spectral Ermac and simply play it to roleplay a tied and bored NRS developer who was stuck thinking of a third variation.

As always, I have to leave my Unbreakable downplay video here.

The violin just makes this video awesome.

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RM Ree

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He did say fastest /advancing/ punish. B12 doesn't hit as far as fast as f4.

Also are we talking about punishing after Raidens overhead OS into shocker on block? If not and we're talking ex shocker on wake up, we can low profile it (as well as vicinity burst) with neutral duck or d4. We get a whiff punish after that.
 
Also are we talking about punishing after Raidens overhead OS into shocker on block? If not and we're talking ex shocker on wake up, we can low profile it (as well as vicinity burst) with neutral duck or d4. We get a whiff punish after that.
I was referring to any baited ex shocker really. I frequently low profile with d4 by chance. It's kinda scary to get up from neutral duck with it being active for so long. Anyway, learned lots of new things here, haven't been using SZ for awhile. Good stuff.