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Mr. Hollywood
Premium Supporter
Yeah, I’m starting it. If you eat some bad losses or just think Johnny sucks in general, post here. I’ll start.

Fuck. Sonya.
12f rings? REALLY? GOOD ONE, NRS! Yall think you’re real funny?!

Idc about the mixup, it’s a stubby high, but uh:
30% meterless
40% for one bar
50% in the corner

Oh, I’ll just keep her out. A good player doesn’t get put in the position to guess a mixu-

OH, NEVERMIND BECAUSE SHE’S THE BEST ZONER IN THE FUCKING GAME!!! TIME TO APPROACH!!! Life lead = gg.

And here’s a dude I just played who switched from Thin Ice Sub Zero after I 2-0’d him. Can’t stop laughing. Fucking tier whores, man. Can't make this shit up.

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Yea Sonya is just insane. She has options for everything, she has an insane mixup game, and both her zoning/frames are insane. She is 100% the best character in the game. I honestly find really good subs to be annoying online with Johnny as well but I am told that's just online due to fuzzy blocking not working as well. I'm interested to play one on LAN.
 

LarSanity

Who hired this guy
You teched ten throws and didn't neutral duck punish any of them? That's on you.
Im sorry wtf are you talking about, I didnt give you the full breakdown of a match lol.
Must be a scorpion main that thinks scorpion is low tier and he needs more braindead tools , fuck off with your downplay horseshit.

Ok let me ask you do you think johnny has viable KBs?
Ill wait mr badass
 
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Jbog

Noob
Just finished a few games and his wiffing issues on small cast is horseshit! Johnny cage is shit for that reason! Totally unviable on women and raiden (soap bar in my mouth)!
 

LawAbidingCitizen

MD| Soberless (Cyrax Loyalist)
Cassie’s FB. WTF NRS?
Yeah she is my pocket for Kotals bad MUs.
That Fatal Blow has to be the worst in the game. If not the worst then it's top 5 worst.

She needs to have gunshots for fatal blow not a slow as fuck backwards arc into forward and down. Her pokes are meh as well just saying but the F4 is nice, same speed as the D3.
 

Jbog

Noob
As usual with nrs games 60 percent of online play is wifi so hard if not impossible to jail into his jailing strings.
 

Jbog

Noob
I get it nrs johnny was beast in mk9 and very solid in mkx (untill they desacked stunt double) a list was still solid but 5 characters have all the tools to dominate this game! Play ranked 10 matches 6 scorpions 3 geras and a sonya! Usually throw a sub zero in there so i can get kb for 350
 

DrFolmer

AKA Uncle Kano
You teched ten throws and didn't neutral duck punish any of them? That's on you.
I see what you're getting at, but the way recovery works on certain strings - it's very hard to make the read. Particularly Scorpion and Sub-Zero have REALLY good strings for stagger as they flow almost naturally into throws. For instance, reading throws from Liu Kang and Erron? Much more easy to manage - throws from Scorp and Sub? Maan that's a whole other layer to their mixups. Given the many things that you constantly have to been on the lookout for it's just a big gamble, especially AFTER triggering the KB d2.

The player tries to deal with Scorpion's stagger into throw, stagger into shimmy, his option to teleport at any time, stagger into poke canceled into Spear-chain shenanigans (I know it's punishable, but it's hella disgusting in clutch situations). And Sub-Zero got his mixups in both variations, Thin Ice has super fast slide, can do excellent staggers with his low starter, his disgusting d4 (actually goes for Scorpion too) that just resets neutral essentially ON BLOCK. Throws tend to feel overwhelming when a character already have a vast toolkit with many strong aspects. It's just a lot to deal with when it's in your face, which is why some opt for simply teching the throws. It's something pros do as well. Against Jacqui they just bide their time waiting for the right time while being ready to tech when she goes for f31(cancel) into throw.

But yeah if someone gets predictable, blow em up - but it's not always as simple as just 'making the read'
 
You know what annoys me about Scorpion's forward throw? How CLOSE you are to him after getting thrown. I hate how my main characters (Jade & Johnny) have forward throws that knock the opponent far away, but Scorpion's forward throw leave you practically at his feet so he can continue his bullshit.

I feel like our pressure is really broken up once Johnny lands a forward throw. I wish we got the Scorpion treatment and had the opponent at our feet.
 

LarSanity

Who hired this guy
I see what you're getting at, but the way recovery works on certain strings - it's very hard to make the read. Particularly Scorpion and Sub-Zero have REALLY good strings for stagger as they flow almost naturally into throws. For instance, reading throws from Liu Kang and Erron? Much more easy to manage - throws from Scorp and Sub? Maan that's a whole other layer to their mixups. Given the many things that you constantly have to been on the lookout for it's just a big gamble, especially AFTER triggering the KB d2.

The player tries to deal with Scorpion's stagger into throw, stagger into shimmy, his option to teleport at any time, stagger into poke canceled into Spear-chain shenanigans (I know it's punishable, but it's hella disgusting in clutch situations). And Sub-Zero got his mixups in both variations, Thin Ice has super fast slide, can do excellent staggers with his low starter, his disgusting d4 (actually goes for Scorpion too) that just resets neutral essentially ON BLOCK. Throws tend to feel overwhelming when a character already have a vast toolkit with many strong aspects. It's just a lot to deal with when it's in your face, which is why some opt for simply teching the throws. It's something pros do as well. Against Jacqui they just bide their time waiting for the right time while being ready to tech when she goes for f31(cancel) into throw.

But yeah if someone gets predictable, blow em up - but it's not always as simple as just 'making the read'
People are so quick to call each other scrubs you basically described what Iwas talking about.
Look at scorpions f3 there are 4 options off of it and 2 KBs
  1. Can stagger into grab which can lead to KB
  2. Leads to a overhead low in searing rage
  3. Teleport if they read im poking too much
  4. F34 is a KB
As a cage main making reads is the name of the game lol
 

Wrath0594

Steam profile: 76561198102032134
Damn uh... Was drunk af when I made this tbh. Guess it's fine. If it stays, I'd like everyone to bear in mind that the goal of the thread is for people to rant- not to argue about counterplay and viability and so forth. You can correct people on facts or give a quick tip, but don't argue. That belongs in the general discussion thread. Keep this in mind, I'm checking myself as well.

I mean, as the "Johnny Defender" that I am. Not a "safe space" just a different end goal than the usual is all. That being to give people a place to dump their sodium so it stops affecting them, and doesn't leak out elsewhere.
 

Wigy

There it is...
Johnny's lit. It's just painful when you outplay someone all game and then loose 70% of your health to two crushing blows then a half screen fatal blow lol
 

Wigy

There it is...
Sonya is able to dish out over 400.00 damage in the corner with one bar. Is Geras even capable of that?
Geras can do way more than that but has to charge his d2 with db2.

His bnbs turn to about 400 as normal. Off his d2 kb he gets 740 2 bars