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nwo

Noob
yea Kung can be quite predictable sometimes even against my (soap bar in my mouth), limited nightwolf.

And you just uploaded this? LOL, how old is this video.

You're the exact person I had in mind when I said my worst fear is a laggy online Nightwolf / Kitana.

Too bad you didn't have the balls to play me offline at NEC. That's ok I got to play against a better Kitana anyway.

You are notorious for lagging Nodoubt...everyone knows that, you'd think after playing 5 years, you'd fix / upgrade your computer, but obviously it works out well for you.

EDIT: and its not like my video misrepresented you, you won 8 to 5, that's the only reason I felt it was ok to upload it.
 
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nwo

Noob
That's just solid reads, but your reads aren't always on point. So if you're spinning sweep reads, a good player will adapt and then bait them, assuming your reads are accurate in the first place. Then you will get punished accordingly. And it's not like you can react to a start up sweep animation consistently or even often, it's mostly based entirely off reads/anticipation. Besides, often when you spin sweeps, they end up too far to finish his infinite. The risk/reward is there but the percentage that it will pay off is considerably lower than it backfiring.
If the sweeps are too far to finish the infinite, the odds are, the spin will be swept in the first place. After making this video, and paying attention closely, spinning sweeps is probably more instinct / reads like you were saying. The thing is, it only takes 1 to finish your opponent off in a low lag or offline environment (vs Female Ninjas and Stryker).

 
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Too bad you didn't have the balls to play me offline at NEC. That's ok I got to play against a better Kitana anyway.
WTH? If my schedule would have worked out (good that it didn't because of the storm), I would have been at NEC. It would have been an honor to get tossed around like a rag doll by some of the best. Granted I could hold my own, but you get the point.

It's. A. Game.
 

NoDoubt

nasty
And you just uploaded this? LOL, how old is this video.

You're the exact person I had in mind when I said my worst fear is a laggy online Nightwolf / Kitana.

Too bad you didn't have the balls to play me offline at NEC. That's ok I got to play against a better Kitana anyway.

You are notorious for lagging Nodoubt...everyone knows that, you'd think after playing 5 years, you'd fix / upgrade your computer, but obviously it works out well for you.

EDIT: and its not like my video misrepresented you, you won 8 to 5, that's the only reason I felt it was ok to upload it.

lol I went to NEC and met CD and Maxter in the parking lot shoveling out snow to get to their cars. I actually almost died on the way there, they all said shock left and it was over.

the match you uploaded was the one u asked me if u can upload for youtube and I told u we should do a less laggy set, but u went ahead. Its ok tho cuz we played a few days after that with a real set : )

U think im scared of u when iv played the most credible people offline. Iv hung out with Crazy D at his house twice n we played, tourny wise this includes Moe, Juggz, Reo, DC Hustle, AC, w1nter warz, ect so u should be thankful I risked my life in that blizzard to go play your garbage ass in that non-existent umk3 tournament.

nwo U been playin longer than me and all u got is the kung lao infinite under your belt. Let the elite players decide who ranks on the tier chart. did u pull your gun out yet your usin on Bass?
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
I haven't played you @nwo, but I have played @NoDoubt on and offline. He's one of the best UMK3 players I've ever played, hands down. It's true that his connection is ass, but he's still a great player regardless.

Anyway, I don't think anyone can convince me that Kung Lao is top 10 and certainly not top 5 through argument. I'd have to see it first hand and even then, just because I lose to a character that doesn't mean they're better than I thought. I could lose to Kung Lao 0-10 and still not change my opinion. My opinion is based on 7 years of playing the game, so take it for what it is or leave it, up to you.
 

nwo

Noob
lol I went to NEC and met CD and Maxter in the parking lot shoveling out snow to get to their cars. I actually almost died on the way there, they all said shock left and it was over.

the match you uploaded was the one u asked me if u can upload for youtube and I told u we should do a less laggy set, but u went ahead. Its ok tho cuz we played a few days after that with a real set : )
A real set? After you found out that I improved we never had a real set again. Even in my video, that was the first time we faced each other in 2013, the lag was insane, but since I used the record input function, the game looks halfway smooth. I improved since then and yet I could barely even win a round any time we faced each other again (which wasn't many). The last time we played had to of been June or July.

nwo U been playin longer than me and all u got is the kung lao infinite under your belt. Let the elite players decide who ranks on the tier chart. did u pull your gun out yet your usin on Bass?
I've been playing longer than you? You started playing in 2009 right? So did I. All I got is "the kung lao infinite," you're ignorant man, and talking about pulling guns? That's absolutely something I have never said, just because I have a glock icon on Skype doesn't mean you have to shit your pants bro.

BTW, I kept telling igotbass for months that you were not gonna go to NEC, even though you said you were going. I already knew you had nothing to gain by going, because I would absolutely beat you more offline than I do online in your disgusting lag.

I haven't played you @nwo, but I have played @NoDoubt
Anyway, I don't think anyone can convince me that Kung Lao is top 10 and certainly not top 5 through argument. I'd have to see it first hand and even then, just because I lose to a character that doesn't mean they're better than I thought. I could lose to Kung Lao 0-10 and still not change my opinion. My opinion is based on 7 years of playing the game, so take it for what it is or leave it, up to you.
I already knew that man, that's why I tried to stop discussing the tier list with you after you said he wasn't even a top 10 character.

Nothing you can say is going to convince me that he's not a top 5 character. Or that you are now better than Marvirrasta. These are not things decided on an online forum.

I'm done here.
 

NoDoubt

nasty
^ - Juggz has played offline already. I started in late summer 2010 FYI. I was playin MK2 in the mame lobbies for a few months b4 ever touching umk3.

your right I wouldnt have nothin to gain fightin u cuz their's no credits to gain lol. Already won 2 tournies with elites, no footage from either 1 of them for whatever reason.