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Shock

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Using approximately 34 individual tier lists, I cross referenced all of them and came up with this:

1. Kabal
2. Human Smoke
3. Kung Lao
4. Ermac +2
5. Reptile
6. Kano -2
7. Nightwolf
8. Robot Smoke
9. Sindel
10. Jax
11. Sonya
12. Kitana
13. Stryker
14. Scorpion
15. Unmasked Sub-zero
16. Jade
17. Liu Kang
18. Sektor
19. Classic Sub-zero
20. Mileena +2
21. Cyrax -1
22. Sheeva +1
23. Shang Tsung -2

Top Tier ( up to 5 points)
Kabal, Human Smoke, Kung Lao, Ermac

High Tier (5.01 - 10)
Reptile, Kano, Nightwolf, Robot Smoke, Sindel

Mid Tier (10.01 - 15)
Jax, Sonya, Kitana, Stryker, Scorpion, Unmasked Sub-zero

Low Tier (15.01 - 20)
Jade, Liu Kang, Sektor, Classic Sub-zero, Mileena

Bottom Tier (20.01 and higher)
Cyrax, Sheeva, Shang Tsung

Remember, that is a combination of all the tier lists mentioned, giving the same weight to online and offline, and different platforms. A further break down can be seen below. The more ranks a character is given, the less certain their placement is. So for example, Kabal's offline ranks are 1 and 2, but online they are 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6. Human Smoke also appears to have a pretty stable ranking with a low average range of 3.5 (for both off and online). Mileena has relatively unstable ranking with an average range of 8, and consequently benefits from this rerank. Have a look through, if there are any errors with the number lists, please post exactly what I did, and then what it should be.

Certainty for now is based on the average number of ranking positions for off and online, but I may run through the numbers for all the lists again and get a more precise number for each. Some may go up, some may drop but the percentages will start to differentiate more. The number in () represents the number of placements selected by players. Average Rank is the placements added up and divided by that number. The / divides offline/online ranking. Median Rank is the middle number of a set of ranks (the two middle numbers added together and divided by 2 if the set is even). Mode Rank is the most commonly occuring rank. All Ranks Average is every instance of every rank cast, added together and divided by the number of rankings.

Kabal: 1.5

Offline Ranks - 1, 2 (2)
Oline Ranks - 1, 2, 3, 5, 6 (5)
Average Rank - 1.5/3.4
Median Rank - 1.5/3
Mode Rank - 1/1
Highest Rank - 1/1
Lowest Rank - 2/6
All Ranks average - 1.15/1.73
Certainty: 84.7%


Human Smoke: 2.03

Offline Ranks - 1, 2, 3 (3)
Online Ranks - 1, 2, 3, 4 (4)
Average Rank - 2/2.5
Median Rank - 2/2.5
Mode Rank - 2/2
Highest Rank - 1/1
Lowest Rank - 3/4
All Ranks average - 2/2.05 (2.03)
Certainty: 84.7%

Kung Lao: 4.5

Offline Ranks - 2, 3, 4, 15 (4)
Online Ranks - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 (8)
Average Rank - 6/4.5
Median Rank - 3.5/4.5
Mode Rank - 3/3
Highest Rank - 2/1
Lowest Rank - 15/8
All Ranks average - 5.08/4.2 (4.5)
Certainty: 73.9%


Ermac: 4.68

Offline Ranks - 3, 5, 6 (3)
Online Ranks - 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10 (6)
Average Rank - 4.66/5
Median Rank - 5/4.5
Mode Rank - 6/4.5
Highest Rank - 3/2
Lowest Rank - 6/10
All Ranks average - 5.08/4.45 (4.68)
Certainty: 80.4%


Reptile: 5.75

Offline Ranks - 4, 5, 6, 14 (4)
Online Ranks - 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 (7)
Average Rank - 7.25/5
Median Rank - 5.5/5
Mode Rank - 5/6
Highest Rank - 4/2
Lowest Rank - 14/8
All Ranks average - 5.8/5.68 (5.75)
Certainty: 76%


Kano: 6.07

Offline Ranks - 3, 4, 5, 9 (4)
Online Ranks - 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11 (7)
Average Rank - 5.25/6
Median Rank - 4.5/6
Mode Rank - 4/4
Highest Rank - 3/1
Lowest Rank - 9/11
All Ranks average - 4.41/6.93 (6.07)
Certainty: 76%


Nightwolf: 6.18

Offline Ranks - 3, 5, 6, 7, 8 (5)
Online Ranks - 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 (8)
Average Rank - 5.8/5.5
Median Rank - 6/5.5
Mode Rank - 7/7
Highest Rank - 3/2
Lowest Rank - 8/9
All Ranks average - 6.46/6 (6.18)
Certainty: 71.7%


Robot Smoke: 7.65

Offline Ranks - 4, 7, 8, 9 (4)
Online Ranks - 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11 (6)
Average Rank - 7/7.33
Median Rank - 7.5/7.5
Mode Rank - 8/8
Highest Rank - 4/3
Lowest Rank - 9/11
All Ranks average - 7.46/7.78 (7.65)
Certainty: 78.2%


Sindel: 9

Offline Ranks - 8, 9, 10 (3)
Online Ranks - 3, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 (6)
Average Rank - 9/9
Median Rank - 9/9.5
Mode Rank - 9/9
Highest Rank - 8/3
Lowest Rank - 10/13
All Ranks average - 8.75/9.15 (9)
Certainty: 80.4%


Jax: 10.53

Offline Ranks - 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 (5)
Online Ranks - 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 (5)
Average Rank - 11/11
Median Rank - 11/11
Mode Rank - 10/10
Highest Rank - 9/9
Lowest Rank - 13/13
All Ranks average - 10.58/10.5 (10.53)
Certainty: 78.2%


Sonya: 11.35

Offline Ranks - 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 (5)
Online Ranks - 6, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16 (8)
Average Rank - 12/11.75
Median Rank - 12/12
Mode Rank - 11/11
Highest Rank - 10/6
Lowest Rank - 14/16
All Ranks average - 11.16/11.47 (11.35)
Certainty: 71.7%


Kitana: 11.9

Offline Ranks - 6, 9, 11, 12, 15 (5)
Online Ranks - 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 (6)
Average Rank - 10.6/12.5
Median Rank - 11/12.5
Mode Rank - 12/14
Highest Rank - 6/10
Lowest Rank - 15/15
All Ranks average - 11/12.55 (11.9)
Certainty: 76%


Stryker: 12.4

Offline Ranks - 10, 12, 13, 14, 18 (5)
Online Ranks - 4, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 15 18 (8)
Average Rank - 13.4/11.12
Median Rank - 13/11
Mode Rank - 13/12.5
Highest Rank - 10/4
Lowest Rank - 18/18
All Ranks average - 13.5/11.81 (12.4)
Certainty: 71.7%


Scorpion: 14.4

Offline Ranks - 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 (5)
Online Ranks - 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 (7)
Average Rank - 14/15
Median Rank - 14/15
Mode Rank - 14/14
Highest Rank - 12/12
Lowest Rank - 16/18
All Ranks average - 14.07/14.66 (14.4)
Certainty: 73.9%


Unmasked Sub-zero: 14.46

Offline Ranks - 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 (5)
Online Ranks - 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 (7)
Average Rank - 14/14
Median Rank - 14/14
Mode Rank - 15/15
Highest Rank - 12/11
Lowest Rank - 16/17
All Ranks average - 14.61/14.36 (14.46)
Certainty: 73.9%


Jade: 16.46

Offline Ranks - 13, 15, 16, 17, 20 (5)
Online Ranks - 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 (8)
Average Rank - 16.2/17.5
Median Rank - 16/17.5
Mode Rank - 16/16
Highest Rank - 13/14
Lowest Rank - 20/21
All Ranks average - 15.61/17.05 (16.46)
Certainty: 71.7%


Liu Kang: 17.74

Offline Ranks - 17, 18, 21, 22 (4)
Online Ranks - 12, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 (7)
Average Rank - 19.5/17.57
Median Rank - 19.5/18
Mode Rank - 17/17
Highest Rank - 17/12
Lowest Rank - 22/21
All Ranks average - 17.83/17.68 (17.74)
Certainty: 84.7%


Sektor: 18.30

Offline Ranks - 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 (6)
Online Ranks - 16, 17, 18, 19, 22 (5)
Average Rank - 18.5/18.4
Median Rank - 18.5/18
Mode Rank - 18/18
Highest Rank - 16/16
Lowest Rank - 21/22
All Ranks average - 18.61/18.1 (18.30)
Certainty: 76%


Classic Sub-zero: 18.81

Offline Ranks - 19, 20 (2)
Online Ranks - 11, 13, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 (8)
Average Rank - 19.5/17.5
Median Rank - 19.5/18.5
Mode Rank - 19/19
Highest Rank - 19/11
Lowest Rank - 20/22
All Ranks average - 19.23/18.52 (18.81)
Certainty: 73.9%


Mileena: 19.75

Offline Ranks - 12, 16, 17, 18, 21, 22, 23 (7)
Online Ranks - 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 (9)
Average Rank - 18.42/19
Median Rank - 18/19
Mode Rank - 22/21.5
Highest Rank - 12/15
Lowest Rank - 23/23
All Ranks average - 18.66/20.38 (19.75)
Certainty: 65.2%


Cyrax: 20.67

Offline Ranks - 18, 20, 21, 22 (4)
Online Ranks - 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 (8)
Average Rank - 20.25/19.37
Median Rank - 20.5/19.5
Mode Rank - 21/21
Highest Rank - 18/15
Lowest Rank - 22/23
All Ranks average - 20.25/20.94 (20.67)
Certainty: 73.9%


Sheeva: 21.38

Offline Ranks - 12, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 (6)
Online Ranks - 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 (6)
Average Rank - 19.5/20.5
Median Rank - 20.5/20.5
Mode Rank - 23/23
Highest Rank - 12/18
Lowest Rank - 23/23
All Ranks average - 21.38/21.38 (21.38)
Certainty: 73.9%


Shang Tsung: 22

Offline Ranks - 20, 21, 22, 23 (4)
Online Ranks - 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 (5)
Average Rank - 21.5/21
Median Rank - 21.5/21
Mode Rank - 23/23
Highest Rank - 20/19
Lowest Rank - 23/23
All Ranks average - 21.9/22.05 (22)
Certainty: 76%


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Original post (no longer applies to thread):

READ THIS BEFORE POSTING.


Post your tier lists for UMK3 here, no matter what platform you play on. Don't post ANYTHING except tier lists and the platform you intend it to be specified for. Anything extra will be deleted. If you have posted your list in the main tier list thread, post it again here. The data will be cross referenced per game, and all games. Any arguing in this thread is completely unnecessary and this is meant for data purposes only. Any off topic, arguing, or garbage posts will be treated with the discretion of the mods, and most likely zero tolerance. Infractions will be given, no questions ask.

Include platform - arcade, XBL, DS, Kaillera, etc.

Edit: Just tier lists people, full tier lists, no notes, no reasons, not top 10s, and include the platform - arcade, XBL, DS, Kaillera, etc. Tier grouping will be determined later, as some characters listed low, or mid tier for example, might not actually fall into that category at all.

Edit 7/5/08: Some posts have been deleted. This is not a discussion thread, this is a data collection thread meant for everyone on the site to contribute to. Post your tier lists, and platforms you play on/specified your tier list for. Tell anyone who has not posted in or seen this thread to do so who would obviously want to. Even if you agree with the default tier list posted on this site, you should post it because it still counts.

Edit 7/20/08: Some more posts deleted, please keep the tier lists coming.

Edit 9/16/10 Feel free to post about the tier lists freely. If you want to add your own lists to the thread as well, I may eventually factor them into the group tier listing. Again remember that neither this, nor the main tier list for this site are 100% accurate, however they are very similar. Eventually we plan on doing best of 10 sets with similarly skilled players and factoring point based ranking that way as well.
 

Derek

Noob
1. Kabal
2. H. Smoke
3. Kung
4. Ermac
5. Nightwolf
6. R. Smoke
7. Reptile
8. Kano
9. Sindel
10. Sonya
11. Kitana
12. Stryker
13. Jax
14. U. Sub
15. Scorpion
16. Mileena
17. Jade
18. Sektor
19. C. Sub
20. Sheeva
21. Liu Kang
22. Shang
23. Cyrax
 
Overall Tier List

1. Kabal
2. H. Smoke
3. Ermac
4. Kung Lao
5. Nightwolf
6. Reptile
7. Robot Smoke
8. Sindel
9. Kano
10. Sonya
11. Kitana
12. Stryker
13. Jax
14. Unmasked Sub-Zero
15. Scorpion
16. Mileena
17. Jade
18. Liu Kang
19. Sheeva
20. Classic Sub-Zero
21. Sektor
22. Cyrax
23. Shang Tsung
 
Kaillera/Mame32k .64

Kabal
Kung Lao
R. Smoke
H. Smoke
Ermac
Nightwolf
Kano
Reptile
Stryker
Sindel
C Sub-Zero
Jax
Sonya
Kitana
Sektor
U Sub-Zero
Cyrax
Scorpion
Sheeva
Liu Kang
Jade
Shang Tsung
Mileena
 

Shock

Administrator
Premium Supporter
Just tier lists people, full tier lists, no notes, no reasons, not top 10s, and include the platform - arcade, XBL, DS, Kaillera, etc.
 

Kaiba

Noob
Arcade/DS

1. H Smoke
2. Kabal
3. Kung Lao
4. Kano
5. Nightwolf
6. Ermac
7. Reptile
8. Sindel
9. Sonya
10. Robo Smoke
11. Scorpion
12. U Sub
13. Stryker
14. Kitana
15. C. Sub
16. Cyrax
17. Mileena
18. Sektor
19. Jade
20. Liu Kang
21. Jax
22. Sheeva
23. Shang
 

Shock

Administrator
Premium Supporter
Tier grouping will be determined later, as some characters listed low, or mid tier, might not actually fall into that category at all.
 

ded

Elder God
1. Kabal
2. Human Smoke
3. Kung Lao
4. Kano
5. Reptile
6. Ermac
7. Nightwolf
8. Robo Smoke
9. Sindel
10. Jax
11. Sonya
12. Kitana
13. Stryker
14. Scorpion
15. Unmasked Sub-Zero
16. Jade
17. Liu Kang
18. Sektor
19. Classic Sub-Zero
20. Cyrax
21. Shang Tsung
22. Mileena
23. Sheeva
 
XBLA

1. Human Smoke
2. Kabal
3. Ermac
4. Kano
5. Kung Lao
6. Nightwolf
7. Reptile
8. Rob0Smoke
9. Sindel
10. Kitana
11. Jax
12. Stryker
13. Sonya
14. Jade
15. Unmasked Sub Zero
16. Scorpion
17. Liu Kang
18. Sub-Zero
19. Mileena
20. Sheeva
21. Cyrax
22. Sektor
23. Shang Tsung
 
Arcade/ DS
1. Human Smoke
2. Kabal
3. Ermac
4. Kano
5. Reptile
6. Nightwolf
7. R. Smoke
8. Sindel
9. Kitana
10. Sonya
11. Jax
12. Mileena
13. Jade
14. Scorpion
15. Kung Lao
16. U. Sub - Zero
17. Liu Kang
18. Stryker
19. Classic Sub
20. Sektor
21. Sheeva
22. Cyrax
23. Shang Tsung
 
UMK3 Xbox Tier List.

1. Kabal.
2. Human Smoke.
3. Kung Lao.
4. Ermac.
5. Nightwolf.
6. Reptile.
7. Kano
8. Sindel.
9. Robo Smoke.
10. Jax.
11. Sonya.
12. Stryker.
13. Kitana.
14. Scorpion
15. Unmasked Sub-Zero
16. Liu Kang.
17. Sektor.
18. Jade.
19. Shang Tsung.
20. Classic Sub-Zero.
21. Cyrax.
22. Mileena.
23. Sheeva.
 

Tim Static

Adminerator
Arcade

1. Kabal
2. Kung Lao
3. H.Smoke
4. Kano
5. Ermac
6. Reptile
7. Robo Homo
8. Nightwolf
9. Jax
10. Sindel
11. Kitana
12. Stryker
13. Sonya
14. Scorpion
15. Jade
16. U-Sub=Zero
17. Liu Kang
18. Mileena
19. C-Sub-Zero
20. Sheeva
21. Sektor
22. Cyrax
23. Shang Tsung
 
1. Kabal
2. Human Smoke
3. Kung Lao
4. Kano
5. Reptile
6. Ermac
7. Nightwolf
8. Robo Smoke
9. Sindel
10. Jax
11. Sonya
12. Kitana
13. Stryker
14. Scorpion
15. Unmasked Sub-Zero
16. Jade
17. Liu Kang
18. Sektor
19. Classic Sub-Zero
20. Cyrax
21. Shang Tsung
22. Mileena
23. Sheeva
 
XBox 360/XBox Live

1. Kano
2. Human Smoke
3. Sindel
4. Nightwolf
5. Kung Lao
6. Kabal
7. Reptile
8. Robot Smoke
9. Jax
10. Ermac
11. Sonya
12. Stryker
13. Classic Sub-Zero
14. Sub-Zero
15. Kitana
16. Scorpion
17. Sektor
18. Liu Kang
19. Mileena
20. Sheeva
21. Jade
22. Cyrax
23. Shang Tsung

Arcade/Upright
1. Kano
2. Sindel
3. Human Smoke
4. Jax
5. Kung Lao
6. Kabal
7. Reptile
8. Ermac
9. Nightwolf
10. Robot Smoke
11. Sonya
12. Stryker
13. Classic Sub-Zero
14. Sub-Zero
15. Kitana
16. Scorpion
17. Sektor
18. Liu Kang
19. Mileena
20. Sheeva
21. Jade
22. Cyrax
23. Shang Tsung
 
X360

1. Kabal
2. H. Smoke
3. Kung Lao
4. Kano
5. Ermac
6. Reptile
7. R. Smoke
8. Nightwolf
9. Jax
10. Stryker
11. Sindel
12. Scorpion
13. U. Sub Zero
14. Kitana
15. Sonya
16. Jade
17. Mileena
18. Sektor
19. Lui Kang
20. Cyrax
21. Sheeva
22. C. Sub Zero
23. Shang Tsung
 
Arcade

1. Kabal
2. H. Smoke
3. Kung Lao
4. Kano
5. Ermac
6. Reptile
7. Nightwolf
8. R. Smoke
9. Sindel
10. Stryker
11. Jax
12. U. Sub Zero
13. Scorpion
14. Sonya
15. Kitana
16. Sektor
17. Lui Kang
18. Cyrax
19. C. Sub Zero
20. Jade
21. Mileena
22. Shang Tsung
23. Sheeva
 
Overall Tier List

1. Kabal
2. H. Smoke
3. Ermac
4. Kung Lao
5. Nightwolf
6. Reptile
7. Robot Smoke
8. Sindel
9. Kano
10. Sonya
11. Kitana
12. Stryker
13. Jax
14. Unmasked Sub-Zero
15. Scorpion
16. Mileena
17. Jade
18. Liu Kang
19. Sheeva
20. Classic Sub-Zero
21. Sektor
22. Cyrax
23. Shang Tsung
Ok this one is for XBL/Kaillera... NetPlay

1. Kabal
2. H. Smoke
3. Nightwolf
4. Ermac
5. Robot Smoke
6. Sindel
7. Kung lao
8. Unmasked Sub-Zero
9. Kano
10. Reptile
11. Kitana
12. Stryker
13. Sonya
14. Jax
15. Scorpion
16. Liu Kang
17. Jade
18. Sheeva
19. Classic Sub-Zero
20. Sektor
21. Cyrax
22. Mileena
23. Shang Tsung
 
XBLA/Arcade

1.Kabal
2.H Smoke
3. Kung Lao
4.Reptile
5.Kano
6.Ermac
7.Nightwolf
8.R Smoke
9.Sindel
10.Jax
11.Sonya
12.Kitana
13.UnSub
14.Scorpion
15.Stryker
16.Jade
17.Sektor
18.Cyrax
19.Classic Sub
20.Sheeva
21.Shang
22.Lui Kang
23.Mileena
 

Shock

Administrator
Premium Supporter
Some posts have been deleted. This is not a discussion thread, this is a data collection thread meant for everyone on the site to contribute to. Post your tier lists, and platforms you play on/specified your tier list for. Tell anyone who has not posted in or seen this thread to do so who would obviously want to. Even if you agree with the default tier list posted on this site, you should post it because it still counts.
 

Konqrr

MK11 Kabal = MK9 Kitana
Arcade

1. Kabal
2. Human Smoke
3. Kung Lao
4. Kano
5. Reptile
6. Ermac
7. Nightwolf
8. Robo Smoke
9. Sindel
10. Jax
11. Sonya
12. Kitana
13. Stryker
14. Scorpion
15. Unmasked Sub-Zero
16. Jade
17. Liu Kang
18. Mileena
19. Sektor
20. Classic Sub-Zero
21. Cyrax
22. Shang Tsung
23. Sheeva
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Netplay

1. Kabal
2. Nightwolf
3. Human Smoke
4. Kano
5. Reptile
6. Ermac
7. Robo Smoke
8. Kung Lao
9. Sindel
10. Jax
11. Sonya
12. Kitana
13. Stryker
14. Scorpion
15. Unmasked Sub-Zero
16. Jade
17. Liu Kang
18. Mileena
19. Sektor
20. Classic Sub-Zero
21. Cyrax
22. Shang Tsung
23. Sheeva
 

Remz

https//:wavenet.remz.ca
Arcade

1. Kabal
2. Human Smoke
3. Kung Lao
4. Kano
5. Reptile
6. Ermac
7. Nightwolf
8. Robo Smoke
9. Sindel
10. Sonya
11. Kitana
12. Jax
13. Stryker
14. Scorpion
15. Unmasked Sub-Zero
16. Jade
17. Liu Kang
18. Sektor
19. Classic Sub-Zero
20. Cyrax
21. Mileena
22. Shang Tsung
23. Sheeva

Kaillera

1. Kabal
2. Human Smoke
3. Nightwolf
4. Ermac
5. Kano
6. Sonya
7. Reptile
8. Kung Lao
9. Robo Smoke
10. Kitana
11. Sindel
12. Jax
13. Stryker
14. Scorpion
15. Unmasked Sub-Zero
16. Jade
17. Liu Kang
18. Sektor
19. Classic Sub-Zero
20. Cyrax
21. Mileena
22. Sheeva
23. Shang Tsung
 
Arcade / DS

1. Kabal
2. H. Smoke
3. Kano
4. Kung Lao
5. Reptile
6. Ermac
7. Nightwolf
8. Sindel
9. R. Smoke
10. Jax
11. Kitana
12. Sonya
13. Unsub
14. Stryker
15. Scorpion
16. Jade
17. Mileena
18. Cyrax
19. Sektor
20. Classic Sub-Zero
21. Liu Kang
22. Shang Tsung
23. Sheeva
 
XBL

1.Kabal
2.Ermac
3.Human Smoke
4.Kung Lao
5.Reptile
6.Kano
7.Nightwolf
8.Stryker
9.Jax
10.Sindel
11.Robo Smoke
12.U. Sub
13.Sonya
14.Kitana
15.Jade
16.Sektor
17.Cyrax
18.Scorpion
19.C. Sub
20.Liu Kang
21.Mileena
22.Shang Tsung
23.Sheeva
 

HAYRON

Noob
XBLA:

Human Smoke
Kabal
Ermac
Kung Lao
Kano
Reptile
Nightwolf
Sindel
Robo Smoke
Jax
Sonya
Kitana
Scorpion
U. Sub Zero
Stryker
Jade
Liu Kang
Sektor
Cyrax
C Sub Zero
Mileena
Shang Tsung
Sheeva