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Guide Tips on becoming a better player: Part 1 - How losing helps you get better

Very good article - I need to point a couple of my friends this way for certain.

Something else that I think could help would be to keep a notebook for your characters. It's something I intend to get started on doing ASAP as I remember things better when I write them down.
 

CaliJokerstyle

Dies A Lot
This is a great article and much appreciated by myself as I tend to be a zoning style player and get a lot of crap for it. I always have felt that in a competitive situation you stick with what works until it's solved then you adapt. Plus coming from other games I completely agree with this as it truly is a concept that will help in any competitive game.
 

Sasuga

Noob
Good read, this. I might print it out and hang it above my 'altar of gaming'. And on the toilet offcourse :)

Seriously though, so many players online have a good win ratio. Most of them will play you as long as they can win. Nail them good and they will leave.
 

Since there's a lot of new players to the MK community, and undoubtedly for some players, MK9 may be their first fighter, I would like to offer some advice. This advice applies to every type of player, regardless if you're new or not. This is PT 1 - How losing helps you get better, and it will cover: "Learning to lose" - "Controlling your emotions" - "Don't label things as cheap" - "Playing better players"

Learn to lose:
On my journey to evolving into a high level player, one of the most essential lessons I learned was learning how to lose. Sounds simple right? The most basic things that seem simple, are actually pretty tough when emotions come into play.

"Losing is part of the game. If you never lose, you're never truly tested, and never forced to grow. A loss is an opportunity to learn" - Sirlin

You have to remember, not one single person can win every round, every match. It's just unreasonable to expect that from anyone, even from the #1 player in their respective game. No one is perfect, we're all humans, and humans make mistakes. However, losing is probably the best learning tool that you can have in a fighting game. Analyze how or why you lost! I can't stress enough how important this is. Instead of getting angry or frustrated when you lose, take a step back and ask yourself why it was that you lost. Ask yourself, "What did your opponent do? How were you losing? What could you have done differently? Why were you doing the things you were doing?", etc. Once you train yourself to do this, you will slowly stop getting upset after you lose, and start learning from your loss.

Controlling your emotions:
It's completely understandable if you get upset right after you lose a match. I get that, I've been there. It's better to not get upset, but if you just can't avoid it, it's understandable. What you would do then is try and let it go. The first step would be to not put too much emotion into a single match. Your judgement will be severely crowded if you're too emotional while you're playing. Try not to think about the opponents emotions either. Don't say "Oh, he's just messing with me", or "Wow, he's turtling just to piss me off!". Your opponent may very well be trying to do these things, but it only works if you think that's what he's doing. Instead, say to yourself, "What's his next move going to be", or "What is my next move going to be, and why". Now, these questions are kinda hard to process for a newer player. But you have to start somewhere. Just replace the negative thoughts into productive thoughts.

The players who excel the quickest and the furthest are the one's who can move past a loss after analyzing why it was that they lost. After a loss don't say, "Man, I'm so bad", or "Wow, I'm a scrub", "He's too good", etc. As I said before, just ask yourself the why/how/what, work on those things, then forget about the loss.

Don't label things you can't beat as "cheap":

When your opponent does something that is working, and you haven't found a way to beat it yet, DO NOT label it as a cheap tactic. What that does is shift the responsibility away from yourself, so you don't have to find a way to beat it. It's counterproductive, and makes you sound like a scrub. Your opponent is going to do everything he can to win, and you should be doing the same. If there's indeed a tactic your opponent is using that you can't beat, go to training mode! I realize MK9's training mode isn't great, but you definitely can figure tons of things out if you just put in the effort. There's rarely, if ever, a tactic that is unbeatable. So, try everything you can to get around it, defend it, or beat it.

I've also heard players label certain tactics as "boring" or certain gameplay styles as boring. For instance, I know a very common style that gets a lot of complaints is the "keep away". Not necessarily someone who is turtling, but a player who is basically running away the whole match, being very safe. It could also be a player who is zoning. You have to realize, your opponent main goal is to win, as should yours be. So, he's going to do everything he can to win. If he's winning by using a certain tactic, why WOULDN'T he use it? It may be the most boring, cheapest tactic in your eyes, but if he's winning, what would stop him from using this tactic? The only tactics that are "cheap" are the one's that are banned in tournaments. And as I stated earlier, there's very, VERY rarely a move or tactic that is so good that it's banned in a tournament. So basically, anything that's tournament legal, you shouldn't be complaining about.

I've told this to players before, and a lot of the time they say "Well I just won't play that player who is using that tactic". If you're not trying to get better and just playing to play, I guess I would understand that. However, if you want to get better, that's the worst statement you can utter. What the problem is, is that you want to win. And when a player is doing something you can't win against, you want to give it a label to justify losing to it, or losing to that player in general. Instead of actually putting in the effort of finding ways to beat the tactic, it's far easier to just say that the player was playing "cheap" and refuse to play people who play like that. If you actually do want to win, earn it! Don't just play players you can easily beat, what's the point of that? You can just play the AI if you want easy matches. This brings me to my next point, play players better than you!

Playing better players:

By far the thing that I've done to improve my game the quickest was playing players far better than myself. Of course, I had to learn all of the aforementioned things before I could actually learn from losing to these players.

Playing players worse than you is never a good thing. In fact, in most cases, you'll start performing worse if you play bad players consistently. When you play easy opponents, you start falling into patterns. Patterns that work fine against these players, for any number of reasons, but don't work against better players. You don't play at your best, because you don't have to. You can just go through the motions, abusing things that aren't normally abusable.

Playing better players forces you to play better. It will force you to start punishing your opponents mistakes, because your opponent will make few of them. You also won't be as reckless against good opponents, because good players actually punish you for your mistakes as well. Where as a bad player would let you off free a lot of the time. You will also learn a lot from playing good players. From their playstyle, to what they do in certain situations, to even the combos they use. And as I said earlier, you learn from losing. If you're just beating up on noobs all day, what will you learn from that to better your game?


You will learn so much more from losing, than you ever will from winning. You just have to understand that if you want to improve. Learn from your mistakes, and try not to make them next time.


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A great read. I've been playing since MKII but MK9 is the first fighting game I've ever really taken seriously. I started off losing 22 of my first 25 games online. I was so damn jittery I couldn't settle down and play nonetheless learn lol. After that though, the mental cramp subsided and I kept losing, but I started figuring out why I was losing. My current W:L ratio is 2:1 and improving. I'll challenge anyone so long as their connection isn't listed as 0 dots lol and have found that I can beat a lot of the people with better records than me. I may lose the first match, but I'm willing to stick around and learn and figure out how better to beat this particular guy as well as things I can apply to any and all future fights. Mashing combos is wonderful and a great way to deal damage in training mode, but it's the more meaty knowledge that really creates a better fighting experience.

In summary:
Learning from a loss has won me far more games than Sub-Zero's 50+% corner combo.
 
imo that is a bunch of nonsense. losing only hurts your confidence and turns you off from the game. what you need to say is try to find someone on your skill level. that way you and your friend/xbox live buddy are both learning and you're not just losing nonstop. and another thing, imo when you're facing someone clearly better than you i find it hard to learn anything at all because i rush my inputs because i start to get nervous and lose focus.
 
This is good stuff. One thing I do and always keep in mind when I play any game is you have to have the ability to learn HOW to learn from your mistakes. It's not enough that you can say "Well I lost to this so lemme practice that." No, you have to know what to practice,how to practice it most efficiently, multiple scenarios involving it, you basically wanna master what you lost to. It helps you in the long run and makes you a more solid player.

chessmaster said:
imo that is a bunch of nonsense. losing only hurts your confidence and turns you off from the game. what you need to say is try to find someone on your skill level. that way you and your friend/xbox live buddy are both learning and you're not just losing nonstop. and another thing, imo when you're facing someone clearly better than you i find it hard to learn anything at all because i rush my inputs because i start to get nervous and lose focus.
And this is why you will forever be free money. Try playing the game instead of complaining.
 

GLoRToR

Positive Poster!
I don't. They're hella free if I don't lag the fuck out, I love to stream under jips and then blow them up and get hatemail for it.
 
I was religiously a TRMK member and made a thread very similar to this. and was called a copy cat of your thread lol. Thus is how I found TYM cuz they linked to it here lol.

nostalgic read.
 

Lumpymoomilk

Online Punching Bag
But...but...I only lose because other people who are are cheap and cheaters, I let them know I don't appreciate their cheating by showing them my angry emotions.
 

TheSpore

Nurgle Chaos God of Death and Disease
This is good advice and the one thing I have been preaching to my son who jsut started to play video games in general and just hasn't grasped it yet. ( don't worry I don't allow my 5yr old to play MK)
 

BookBurning

Voidwards
I used to just get mad and start mashing buttons while screaming profanities. Worked for me.

I guess everyone has their path to getting better. :D
 

TheSpore

Nurgle Chaos God of Death and Disease
I used to just get mad and start mashing buttons while screaming profanities. Worked for me.

I guess everyone has their path to getting better. :D
SCreaming obscenities never gets old and is a great past-time, though I just don't do it games anymore when I need to vent it all out I call tech support for something and let it all out, believe me they get just much enterainment as I do
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Premium Supporter
I used to just get mad and start mashing buttons while screaming profanities. Worked for me.

I guess everyone has their path to getting better. :D
I like to scream profanities when I'm winning, just for that real life mix-up.
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Premium Supporter
Absolutely beautiful guide, man. It's all true too, and I definitely agree that every loss is a lesson.
Thanks, this was actually written awhile ago for new MK9 players, but the advice goes for every fighter and really any competitive game. I slightly modified it with a couple of Injustice sentences though, lol.
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Premium Supporter
Am I the only one who learns better from watching two people play than I do than actually playing?
First hand experience, for the most part, is always the best learning tool. But knowing how to learn from other people is also a good thing. You shouldn't limit to yourself to learning or improving in only one way. There's many different ways to improve, even simply theory fighting and discussing match-ups can help.
 

TheMills

Noob
Great read, im guilty of doing most things mentioned at first, but it just takes time and patience to learn these things, which im not sure alot of the new players are doing. Thanks