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Discussion in 'Injustice 2' started by General M2Dave, May 9, 2017.
Is... is that a zod laser?
Black Manta looks lit.
Even if he is a bust we still have Deadshot who's like top 5/top 3, Darkseid who's like top 5/top 10, and Fate who is top 10 now imo.
Manta is the biggest don. He literally one hit deathstroke. It took batman and redhood to take him on.
Rather broke than shit imo.
He one hit Deathstroke in what? That animated Flashpoint movie? Deathstroke wrecked him in New 52.
Best Zoners in I2 (IMO)
Starfire (Extremely solid, great chip and meter build)
Superman (Covers a lot of ground but does get outzoned by the better zoners)
Arrow (Very strong, up there with the best)
Fate (Arguably the best Zoner imo)
Cyborg (Very underrated as a character imo)
Deadshot (He is still ok *holds back tears*)
Add to this red hood , he zones good vs non zoners but get outzoned by other zoners . Well not all , he can compete with cyborg in zoning . Arrow maybe too and superman .
Previously Deadshot outzoned Fate... this has changed?
I think you should definitely mention Batman. He legitimately zones out a lot of characters ( some of them , like Cheetah , Brainiac and Scarecrow, are hard to keep out even for stronger zoners, and Batman just shuts them down). Of course he gets outzoned by "the best zoners" but IMO he outzones Superman.
I was contemplating putting bats in it, but due to is meterbuild nerfs and trait nerfs,I don’t think so anymore
I mean he still zones out the characters he zoned out prepatch. He builds meter from pressure anyway when he decides to come in and trait is still a huge factor in zoning. If you manage bats right the nerfs to the trait don't make that much of the difference in the MU's where batman can zone.
The zoners worth taking seriously imo are
1. Fate. Easily the best zoner imo, orb freeze, ankhs, his mid fireballs, the damage his projectiles do. His only weakness in his zoning being his air control, however B2 is a godly anti air, and ankhs aren't half bad at dealing with that if you build them right.
2. Starfire. She is good and can cause a lot of doubt and hesitation in the opponent, I think MB roll is really effective vs her.
Those are the only two who can do it purely off zoning imo.
Other characters with good zoning TOOLS are Ivy, Arrow(if he didn't get countered so hard by Aquaman and Fate, you'd see more Arrow), Superman, Batman, Deadshot, Harley, and Cyborg
anyone else kinda worried zoning will be dead in mk11 ?
But seriously, I just want zoning to be at a minimum... especially after Injustice 2 having so much focus on it.
I personally wish it’s toned down but not entirely gone in mk11
Considering how weak zoning was in mkx, karma dictates mk11 should be a zoning fest lol.
Wha? Fate, Starfire and Green Arrow are pretty much the only real zoners in my opinion. Sure, maybe toss Darkseid in there, but his "zoning" is easier to get around than the aforementioned. That's not enough to claim there's too much of a focus on it. There's too much focus on 50/50s into horseshit.
I hope its dead , nrs dont know how to make balanced zoning characters.
That's literally what Kenshi was in MKX though
I personally think it had less to do with the actual zoning characters and more of the reasoning that the most viable approach to every character is just walk back and make the opponent come to you. Then projectile wars ensue; I don't have much problems with zoning but I have a rather aggressive playstyle, I love coming in and rushdown so it gets a little tiring for me to zone for long periods of time, even though I do have the "win at any cost" mentality.
In terms of actual overhead-low mixups in i2, that's only like a handful of characters. Hell, even left-right mixups.
Your new age king of zoning is here. We will zone no matter what in MK11. Make people cry even when the projectiles aren't that good like Baraka at the reveal lol.
@General M2Dave so do you want the honors of making the mk11 zoning academy thread. because it looks like we're in business
Loving the salt already from the community
“Pussy-way of fighting”
It’s legit not even day 1 and ppl are complaining.
We don’t know what sorts of offensive and zoning variations there are, ppl need to chill.
Saying this, based off of what we have seen, im liking it so far !
Generals unite !
Thread coming up!
I'm back mutha****** and this is legit the first thread I thought of! Zoning General reporting to duty!
Looks like MK11 did right by us and removed the abominations in MKX, so we'll get to keep the playstyle we love so much. I'll be policing the new Academy like a hawk, and any incident of insolence (praise of 50/50s, asking for better jump ins, etc) will be met with immediate hostility and potential banishment from the Academy. We must uphold the Gold Standard at all times, the zoning standard, the Zoning Code.
I've got an idea that I was going to implement for this one but thought of it too late in the game.
When we launch, I'll maintain a list of players who are using zoning characters and their tag, or offline names if they're not on TYM. So it will go top players first, then TYM highly regarded players, then everyone else per character. Color coded with a label. As the game gets more developed I'll add variations to that as well. You can just copy/paste to the OP and then copy/paste the updates. I will message you after you create the thread to confirm the outlook as I have two separate ideas for it, but it will look something like this (with player tags in a spoiler)-
[[[Scarlet - Scar Top Player, Dragon Top Player, EddyWang TYM Great Player, Gibster13 Great Zoning Player, John Doe Lesser Zoning Devotee, Jim Doe Lesser Zoning Devotee
Shang Tsung - WoundCowboy, Gibster13, Mike Doe
***Blue color coding highlights top players-Green great players or well known TYM players-Brown Zoning dedicated players*** ]]]
That way we can have a directory-like place where we can see or follow all our zoning players at each level of play, as well as get games when we want to face certain zoning characters as well.