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Lord Beef

Death Metal and Trance
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what is that ? just end the combo short and then f4 ?
cross over deep jump kick. b12 grants a safe jump. People are really keen on going into crouch after sub crosses up because of slide. So 22~freeze jip b12 (cross over) djk f4~freeze. You want to have a breaker, obviously if you are going to use this, but damn is it satistfying. and if they let go of block you can confirm the djk into dash 22~slide. My fav mix up sequence is a combo of charlies and mine.. 22~freeze jip b12 b2 cancel~22, hitconfirm to freeze, jip b12 crossover djk f4 freeze jip b121 throw/212~clone. That right there..is hella fuckin damage if you guess right on the 50/50s.
 

STB Sgt Reed

Online Warrior
Premium Supporter
cross over deep jump kick. b12 grants a safe jump. People are really keen on going into crouch after sub crosses up because of slide. So 22~freeze jip b12 (cross over) djk f4~freeze. You want to have a breaker, obviously if you are going to use this, but damn is it satistfying. and if they let go of block you can confirm the djk into dash 22~slide. My fav mix up sequence is a combo of charlies and mine.. 22~freeze jip b12 b2 cancel~22, hitconfirm to freeze, jip b12 crossover djk f4 freeze jip b121 throw/212~clone. That right there..is hella fuckin damage if you guess right on the 50/50s.
Oh... scor-

sub zero, you crazy loon you.
 

Lord Beef

Death Metal and Trance
Premium Supporter
LOL, I do the exact same shit...

off everything. Air freeze... b12 B2 cancel 22 freeze etc
Hell, I will play entire matches with cyrax using only the command grab and pressure to get me a HC into net. By then they are down to 70 % or so and its GGs. I really love the 50/50s in this game. No reason not to create more option if you can, ya know? DAT YOMI SON
 

ryublaze

Noob
Premium Supporter
cross over deep jump kick. b12 grants a safe jump. People are really keen on going into crouch after sub crosses up because of slide. So 22~freeze jip b12 (cross over) djk f4~freeze. You want to have a breaker, obviously if you are going to use this, but damn is it satistfying. and if they let go of block you can confirm the djk into dash 22~slide. My fav mix up sequence is a combo of charlies and mine.. 22~freeze jip b12 b2 cancel~22, hitconfirm to freeze, jip b12 crossover djk f4 freeze jip b121 throw/212~clone. That right there..is hella fuckin damage if you guess right on the 50/50s.
Just out of curiosity, why would players want to crouch block after a crossover? Wouldn't that be the same as b1,2,1 dash f4/slide except with less damage?
 

Lord Beef

Death Metal and Trance
Premium Supporter
Just out of curiosity, why would players want to crouch block after a crossover? Wouldn't that be the same as b1,2,1 dash f4/slide except with less damage?
Fear of slide. The point is that it can overwhelm since you don't see subs crossing up all willy nilly it can be a very WTF?! kinda thing. Plus there are more animations to watch rather than being like" ok, b121 here comes the mix up" you track the cross up see the djk and expect a block string and eat the over head because your crouching not wanting to eat a slide. i like using this vs characters who can duck subs 2 since they will most likely crouch after a djk to duck 2, expecting pressure. It's not a replacement for the b121 mix up, just another shenanigan to add in once they are down loaded and conditioned. Plus it's SWAAAAAAAG
 

Seapeople

This one's for you

Lord Beef

Death Metal and Trance
Premium Supporter
I've used it when I know it will take the match for me, absolutely. Or if my meter disadvantage won't be too terrible after blowing it on the xray. Another situational gimmick I have used it for, is say they have no breaker and like 20-28 percent health left and I am on match point but down on life. They are turtling the crap out of me...so what does crazy beef do? I will dash block up and xray right into their block and cross up their panicked punish attempt for my own jip combo. This may seem crazy, but believe me when I say I have gotten many people with this, on and offline. I am not condoning such insanity, so do with this what you will :)
 

dribirut

BLAK FELOW
Royal Contributor
if were gonna talk gimmicks ive got one that literally has alllllllllllllllllllwaaayss worked on the first try... after getting them with a 212 freeze, instantly jump kick forward and do a ex puddle right when you land.. they can tech roll jump out of it.. walla reset is back lol
 

xQUANTUMx

Twitter: @xxQUANTUM
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Seapeople I've used it maybe 3 times total. Most recently as a Hail Mary to get out of the corner against cyusstrike. Ended up giving me the round and position advantage but I was at meter disadvantage. Give and take right?
 

NB Semi Evil Ryu

Former Sub-Zero of the Midwest (2011 - 2015)
Does anybody use Sub's Xray to get out of pressure or sort of act like a flash parry? If you've got 3 bars and want to armor out, I figure you might as well use the safe/rewarding option rather than an unsafe/unrewarding ex slide.
Long list of tags because I feel like this might be somewhat useful & underused...
Qwark28 STB Sgt Reed STB CharlieMurphy beef_supreme RedRaptor10 Quantum_Mekanikz SOT Semi Evil Ryu Tom Brady Denzell
Only in my moments where the only thing that is going through my head is "OHSHIT!OHSHIT!OHSHIT!OHSHIT!OHSHIT!"

And the GGA guys can attest to this. Whenever this moment occurs, it is always accompanied by me shouting "AMERICA!"
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
Does anybody use Sub's Xray to get out of pressure or sort of act like a flash parry? If you've got 3 bars and want to armor out, I figure you might as well use the safe/rewarding option rather than an unsafe/unrewarding ex slide.
Long list of tags because I feel like this might be somewhat useful & underused...
Qwark28 STB Sgt Reed STB CharlieMurphy beef_supreme RedRaptor10 Quantum_Mekanikz SOT Semi Evil Ryu Tom Brady Denzell
The fact that SZ has to use 3 bars to do something that most characters only need one for saddens me.
 

Seapeople

This one's for you
I haven't really even used this yet, it just kinda popped in my head lol. The way I'm thinking about it is that if I'm going to use ex slide it's sort of putting 3 bars on the line anyway since I might have to break afterward.

This is definitely pretty situational for in that one key moment. Sub Zero sort of got the short end of the stick for armoring out of stuff.
 

xQUANTUMx

Twitter: @xxQUANTUM
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Doesn't playing subzero kind of make you have the "oh shit"s anyway? Everything is an uphill battle with this shmo. We're just desensitized to it,since we keep playing him anyway
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
Does anybody use Sub's Xray to get out of pressure or sort of act like a flash parry? If you've got 3 bars and want to armor out, I figure you might as well use the safe/rewarding option rather than an unsafe/unrewarding ex slide.
Long list of tags because I feel like this might be somewhat useful & underused...
Qwark28 STB Sgt Reed STB CharlieMurphy beef_supreme RedRaptor10 Quantum_Mekanikz SOT Semi Evil Ryu Tom Brady Denzell
if youre using it as a flash parry why not just slide and break if its blocked? same exact effect with pushback.

no i dont use it because it doesnt have armour the first few frames and its extremely situational
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
also the only time i use b2 is after b121 just to force them to unblock and get caught by 212, i never let it go