Match-up Discussion The New Kenshi MU Chart - Prepare for Debate

[Pig Of The Hut]

The New Kenshi MU chart - Not prisoner of the moment - All cumulative and Thought out.

Heavy Advantage​

Kano 9-1

Jade 9-1

Sub zero 9-1

Baraka 8-2

Kitana 7-3

Cage 7-3

Ermac 7-3

Csub 7-3

Sheeva 7-3

Quan chi 7-3

Stryker 7-3

Mileena 7-3

Nightwolf 7-3

Sektor 7-3

Rain 7-3

Luis kang 7-3

Slight Advantage​

Scorp 6-4

Jax 6-4

Sonya 6-4

Sindel 6-4

Shang 6-4 (Possibly 5-5)

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Dead Even​

Noob 5-5 ( D. R. )

Raiden 5-5

Skarlet 5-5

Slight Disadvantage​

Cyrax 4-6 (Possibly 5-5)

Cyblax 4-6

Reptile 4-6

Smoke 4-6

Kabal 4-6 (Possibly 3-7 or 5-5 lol) <---More work and study to be done

Freddy 4-6

It's time to Pray and know you're stuff 100%​

Kung Lao 3-7 (Dont talk to me about your kenshi vs shitty online Laos. I have seen this MU at the truest form and highest level. If you're lao and you lose you should be ashamed)


Who Cares???
Kratos 0-0


UPDATE:
11-1-12 Kitana moved to 8-2
11-1-12 Cage moved to 8-2
11-1-12 Reptile moved to 4-6 Kenshi disadvantage
12-16-12 Noob moved from a 6-4 Kenshi Favor to a 5-5
12-16-12 Kung Lao moved from 2-8 to 3-7 Lao Favor
12-16-12 Baraka moved from a 9-1 to 8-2
Special Mentions:
Death see above

 

[BTK HYENA]

Wow.

 

[xKhaoTik]

Pig Of The Hut I'm guessing that the slight disadvantage MU's and beyond are the only matches in which you will use Mileena?

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Pig Of The Hut I'm guessing that the slight disadvantage MU's and beyond are the only matches in which you will use Mileena?

100% absolutely not true

I was tied 2-2 against DJT 's kung lao at MLG Dallas, had the option of picking mileena, sektor, cage etc and who did i choose ???

KENSHI

Following your heart for the win !!!

Here watch this lol http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/98117-fighters-mk9-wb-round5-pig-of-the-hut-vs-djt-game5

edit: I use Kenshi for kabal, smoke, lao, freddy etc I have backups for playstyles and certain players in general . I counterpick the player not character

 

[STRYKIE]

I have backups for playstyles and certain players in general . I counterpick the player not character

Somebody who actually understands counterpicking? Well fuck me sideways and call me sally. Well played sir.

But these numbers seem a little extreme man, you should really give yourself more credit as a player

I'm curious though, why would Cyblax be a worse matchup for Kenshi than Cyrax (you dont think its a possible 5-5)?

 

[Mr. Mileena]

I like.

 

[SquirtMcGirt]

I agree with freddy, as long as freddy can keep kenshi full screen

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Somebody who actually understands counterpicking? Well fuck me sideways and call me sally. Well played sir.

But these numbers seem a little extreme man, you should really give yourself more credit as a player

I'm curious though, why would Cyblax be a worse matchup for Kenshi than Cyrax?

Lol if I were not extreme I'd be called a "down player"

Cyblax gets in whenever he wants . He has mOre punishable start up frames on his teleport but unless I'm missing something the best I can do on his teleport is d3 sc where as against cyrax I get d1 Rk combo on all teleports. Cyblax is safe on tele

Also cyblax has a glitch w kenshi reflect where all of a sudden out of nowhere kenshi cannot reflect his net, this glitch happens all the time and I don't know what triggers it so I just stopped reflecting his nets but I reflect cyrax nets

 

[16 Bit]

There is no way that KL vs. Kenshi is harder for you than Kitana/Cage vs. Kenshi is for us.

 

[GGA HAN]

lol at Luis Kang

 

[Big Pampering]

denzells kung lao worked really good against your mileena surprisingly, but as kung lao he shouldnt have lost against kenshi.

 

[Prinz]

"Prisoner of the moment" reference lol Good thing I play Scorpion, Shang and Noob on the side.

 

[Glass Sword]

I agree on the Smoke and Scorpion match-up. It seems right to me despite the fact I have not reached a peak level for either of those characters.
The Scorpion one is up for debate since he does have a much easier time with Kenshi than most of the cast. Scorpion has three ways to get in well the simple jump in, teleport, and he can ex spear for a punish. The charters with the 9-1s can only jump and they don't have the ability to to stick to Kenshi. Scorpion has the vortex so he can stay in for a bit longer than other characters. Based on his tools it has to be a 6-4 or a 5-5 like you said. However it could be somewhere in the middle depending on the stage and the play styles of the players.
Against you Pig it seems 6-4 lol.

 

[xInfra Deadx]

The New Kenshi MU chart - Not prisoner of the moment - All cumulative and Thought out.

Heavy Advantage​

Kano 9-1

Jade 9-1

Baraka 9-1

Sub zero 9-1

Cage 7-3

Ermac 7-3

Csub 7-3

Sheeva 7-3

Quan chi 7-3

Stryker 7-3

Kitana 7-3

Mileena 7-3

Nightwolf 7-3

Sektor 7-3

Rain 7-3

Luis kang 7-3

Slight Advantage​

Noob 6-4

Scorp 6-4 (possibly 5-5)

Jax 6-4 (possibly 5-5)

Sonya 6-4

Sindel 6-4

Shang 6-4 (Possibly 5-5)

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Dead Even​

Reptile 5-5 (possibly 6-4 kenshi)

Raiden 5-5

Skarlet 5-5

Slight Disadvantage​

Cyrax 4-6 (Possibly 5-5)

Cyblax 4-6

Smoke 4-6

Kabal 4-6 (Possibly 3-7 or 5-5 lol) <---More work and study to be done

Freddy 4-6

It's time to Pray and know you're stuff 100%​

Kung Lao 2-8 (Dont talk to me about your kenshi vs shitty online Laos. I have seen this MU at the truest form and highest level. If you're lao and you lose you should be ashamed)


Who Cares???
Kratos 0-0

And this is why Kenshi is such a prick.

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

There is no way that KL vs. Kenshi is harder for you than Kitana/Cage vs. Kenshi is for us.

This. If kung lao beats kenshi 8 2 then kenshi beats cage 8 2. However, I would say 7 3 not 8 2 for both of those, idk about kitana.

 

[Blind_Ducky]

Oh so now smoke is fucking 4-6 after I've been crying about forever -____- poop on you. Why Is skarlet 5-5(ive never played a skarlet main offline) Also I don't think Freddy is 4-6 but I've only played one Freddy offline and I don't have any clue who he was but I won so fuck 4-6 Freddy. And Lao 2-8 sounds evil. Ill buy 3-7 but 2-8 sounds to high. Kratos gets raped by kenshi.

 

[Eddy Wang]

I like it ^_^

 

[Axel_Redd]

kung lao with tight execution is needed to beat a kenshi with tight execution, plain and simple.

i think kratos can zone kenshi at full screen...

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

UPDATE:

I CHANGED KIT AND CAGE TO 8-2

Makes sense

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Oh so now smoke is fucking 4-6 after I've been crying about forever -____- poop on you. Why Is skarlet 5-5(ive never played a skarlet main offline) Also I don't think Freddy is 4-6 but I've only played one Freddy offline and I don't have any clue who he was but I won so fuck 4-6 Freddy. And Lao 2-8 sounds evil. Ill buy 3-7 but 2-8 sounds to high. Kratos gets raped by kenshi.

There is no way that KL vs. Kenshi is harder for you than Kitana/Cage vs. Kenshi is for us.

I changed it

makes sense

 

[Mr. Mileena]

kung lao with tight execution is needed to beat a kenshi with tight execution, plain and simple.

i think kratos can zone kenshi at full screen...

lol kratos...

but by the way, no kratos can not

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Oh so now smoke is fucking 4-6 after I've been crying about forever -____- poop on you. Why Is skarlet 5-5(ive never played a skarlet main offline) Also I don't think Freddy is 4-6 but I've only played one Freddy offline and I don't have any clue who he was but I won so fuck 4-6 Freddy. And Lao 2-8 sounds evil. Ill buy 3-7 but 2-8 sounds to high. Kratos gets raped by kenshi.

Playing gross made me realize it and it felt a lot like wafflez and i just realized it was me overcoming the MU

That MU is 4-6

dude freddy is 4-6, you know how our games go and clint the beast made me realize heavily as did dave

 

[Axel_Redd]

lol kratos...

but by the way, no kratos can not

whatevs, he's still awesome!

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

And this is why Kenshi is such a prick.

made changes

8-2 over cage and kit

 

[xInfra Deadx]

If Kitana is an 8-2, then why isn't Sektor 8-2? Something is off...