Should MK11 have more combo paths tied to base moves?

[Gaxkang]

It would change the meta for sure, but anything is better than countless down pokes in a row into a grab.

That's what a lot of fights end up being, yeah.

It'd be nice if like, on block one could do stuff. But all it seems to be is D1, and if so what then (not much). And then many times you cannot even D1.

I don't even like big combos....I just want to be able to do something on block other than D1 and maybe get a throw.

 

[Vslayer]

That's what a lot of fights end up being, yeah.

It'd be nice if like, on block one could do stuff. But all it seems to be is D1, and if so what then (not much). And then many times you cannot even D1.

I don't even like big combos....I just want to be able to do something on block other than D1 and maybe get a throw.

Yeah, I hate doing that. I never did it as Cassie, but seeing as D1 is like Kano's best button I have to rely on it for mixups which is hella dumb. But then people get pissed so they start doing like 5 in a row lmao

 

[fr stack]

if you jsut hold up when a dude is poking eventually he'll go to throw and you can land a punch

/shrug

Yep exactly what i do except i neutral duck take 5 % poke damage then punish lol

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

Yeah, I hate doing that. I never did it as Cassie, but seeing as D1 is like Kano's best button I have to rely on it for mixups which is hella dumb. But then people get pissed so they start doing like 5 in a row lmao

Lol right. Offline we can counter poke the best pokes on reaction even when Geras mashes D1. But Online not so much.

What I think would be cool is all pokes 6f become -6 on block and all 7f pokes become -5 on block and all 8f pokes become -4 on block.
That makes all of them 12f till the next poke on block so even with 3f lag we have 9f to counter. Not with mids of course but with pokes into jailing pressure.

But for real I hate mashing poke or jumping around but with how bad Kano is you basically have to condition his only safe mid D1 then go for highs. And jumping is a mind game with him unless they know to crouch block the kano ball and full punish.

I've been using Kotal a ton lately, I find it helps me be more creative and get better with fundies. Probably the same with Kano and Kollector they both have high risk low reward

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

The characters that are exempt from this are:
Sub Zero
breeds creativity and personality from players.

Contrary to your other thread about combos being longer (which I don't agree with). I DO believe base kits should have more launchers for more current sized combos especially for characters that lack combos completely.

However,

Imma need you to remove Sub Zero from that "creativity" list because dude has 2 specials in one variation and 2 specials in the other (that combo, the other 3 are projectiles). He bnb is literally the same in both variations and you either do a jump over kick into standing 2 into ender or jump in punch into ender to keep it grounded and unbreakawayable.

There's literally no creativity here without dipping into his custom moves imo. It's why I don't play my favorite character in the franchise very much. HE'S BORING AF

Yes definitely. I was against NJP pop-ups in the beginning but I wouldn't mind them returning. I think that would increase combo paths for a lot of characters and make it a bit more interesting.

NO NJP LAUNCHERS ... WTF

Unfriended.

 

[Vslayer]

Contrary to your other thread about combos being longer (which I don't agree with). I DO believe base kits should have more launchers for more current sized combos especially for characters that lack combos completely.

However,

Imma need you to remove Sub Zero from that "creativity" list because dude has 2 specials in one variation and 2 specials in the other (that combo, the other 3 are projectiles). He bnb is literally the same in both variations and you either do a jump over kick into standing 2 into ender or jump in punch into ender to keep it grounded and unbreakawayable.

There's literally no creativity here without dipping into his custom moves imo. It's why I don't play my favorite character in the franchise very much. HE'S BORING AF




NO NJP LAUNCHERS ... WTF

Unfriended.

WE NEED THEM PLZ

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

WE NEED THEM PLZ

NO TF WE DON'T!!!

LEAVE THAT GARBAGE, SCRUB SHIT IN MKX WHERE IT BELONGS.

Looking at you quan chi/raiden/predator/takeda abusers

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

Imma need you to remove Sub Zero from that "creativity" list because dude has 2 specials in one variation and 2 specials in the other (that combo, the other 3 are projectiles). He bnb is literally the same in both variations and you either do a jump over kick into standing 2 into ender or jump in punch into ender to keep it grounded and unbreakawayable.

I had him on the list of characters who already have base launchers. But I feel the same about Sub Zero and expressed that I feel certain characters need base launchers, some need KB's fixed/added, some need new variations/custom and some need moves redone.
I know I don't have the answer for every character but trust NRS to fix it this time as long as we are vocal about what is boring or lackluster.

I'm actually starring to use Sub Zero more after learning Sikannder555's tech but I use Dead Of Winter the most now, I used to like Thin Ice but feel DOW has better damage, openers and tools. Both are good though. I feel even though certain characters are very solid they could be more fun or have more interesting tools. I miss Clone so much.

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

NO TF WE DON'T!!!

LEAVE THAT GARBAGE, SCRUB SHIT IN MKX WHERE IT BELONGS.

Looking at you quan chi/raiden/predator/takeda abusers

I agree with Reed here, I don't want NJP launchers because they would be annoying af in 11. So many online scrubs would abuse it. If they where -20 on block I'd be fine with them launching but safe or plus launchers that iveride everything doesn't sound fun or fair.

 

[Vslayer]

NO TF WE DON'T!!!

LEAVE THAT GARBAGE, SCRUB SHIT IN MKX WHERE IT BELONGS.

Looking at you quan chi/raiden/predator/takeda abusers

Bruh

ft10 money match you and me

My Predator against whoever you played in MKX

jkjk

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

I had him on the list of characters who already have base launchers. But I feel the same about Sub Zero and expressed that I feel certain characters need base launchers, some need KB's fixed/added, some need new variations/custom and some need moves redone.
I know I don't have the answer for every character but trust NRS to fix it this time as long as we are vocal about what is boring or lackluster.

I'm actually starring to use Sub Zero more after learning Sikannder555's tech but I use Dead Of Winter the most now, I used to like Thin Ice but feel DOW has better damage, openers and tools. Both are good though. I feel even though certain characters are very solid they could be more fun or have more interesting tools. I miss Clone so much.

I feel some characters would be a lot more fun/creative/etc if customs were a thing. Just look at shang, dude has ninja morphs with combo extenders attached. That'd be some crazy fun shit imo.

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

Bruh

ft10 money match you and me

My Predator against whoever you played in MKX

jkjk

I'll take that MM.

I played Sub/Reptile.

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

I'll take that MM.

I played Sub/Reptile.

OUh shit, I used Cyrax, Cassie, Predator, Alien, Liu Kang and Tremor occasionally Mileena

If I had PS4 I'd do MM's

 

[Vslayer]

I'll take that MM.

I played Sub/Reptile.

Sure hide behind your ice clone bruh

Sub-zero in that game made me so damn salty lmao

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

Sure hide behind your ice clone bruh

Sub-zero in that game made me so damn salty lmao

I WILL!

Ice Clone is awesome. Stops all those hokey rushdown nubs in their tracks. No free 50/50s and lulzy pressure for you!

 

[Vslayer]

I WILL!

Ice Clone is awesome. Stops all those hokey rushdown nubs in their tracks. No free 50/50s and lulzy pressure for you!

50/50s aren't lazy, I gotta guess too I wanna play MKX now

 

[S+ Main]

the hardest 50/50 is waiting till I need to poop before I go into the shower or do I just speedrun it.

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

50/50s aren't lazy, I gotta guess too I wanna play MKX now

Bye Felicia!

 

[Vslayer]

Bye Felicia!

<3

 

[kantboy-2]

I play Kano and I find it asinine that certain kombo strings are considered 'special moves'.

Characters with kombo paths locked out is an added layer of crap.

I want to do 2,2,3 and 2,2,1+3. I want 2,4,1 and 2,4,1+3. I want the options top characters already have.

You know how much useful Molotov could be if I could do F4,3 into it? Same thing with 2,4, Chemical Burn into F4,3, Molotov?

Tweak animations, but don't shackle characters because you ran out of time.

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

Yes definitely. I was against NJP pop-ups in the beginning but I wouldn't mind them returning. I think that would increase combo paths for a lot of characters and make it a bit more interesting.

I agree.
Offense needs a boost, as well as combos.

 

[-Nachtmahr-]

Yes, next topic lol

 

[OutworldKeith]

I think KB & FB mechanics are OP because NRS toned down combos.

The problem with toned down combos and the KB/FB system is Breakaway.

A lot of characters have specials that should be defaults. Raiden being the best example. He has no combo/damage potential without Storm Cell.

NRS should seriously look into some heavy changes. It’s crap in its current form.

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

I play Kano and I find it asinine that certain kombo strings are considered 'special moves'.

Characters with kombo paths locked out is an added layer of crap.

I want to do 2,2,3 and 2,2,1+3. I want 2,4,1 and 2,4,1+3. I want the options top characters already have.

You know how much useful Molotov could be if I could do F4,3 into it? Same thing with 2,4, Chemical Burn into F4,3, Molotov?

Tweak animations, but don't shackle characters because you ran out of time.

Biohazard CMDR was sating he used a custom with Snake bite added and Kano was suddenly good. I aLSo think The buttons shouldn't be locked away behind variation slots.

 

[Shirai Ryu Dog]

Yeah the combos are boring af in this game, I miss the creativity, especially with brutality combos.
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