Ok, so if F4D12 doesnt fit your example, tell me what exactly is so bad about F42 being -5 and launching? It doesn't cancel into anything, and only leads into 24% damage, and there is even a gap between the two hits, and F4 itself still has the same problems that I mentioned before. Objectively it's one of the worser mid strings in the game compared to other characters best mids. Why is it so outlandish for Smoke to have this string?
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F42 gets you 27% damage at least. First combo I came up with gave me that damge meterless so maybe more for a bar. What you just did is tell me everything it doesn't do. This string doesn't cancel into anything, only leads to this much damage, isn't gapless... Like bruh it's a minus 5 mid meterless launcher are you really tryna downplay that? But okay let's say just that into account that F42 has a gap ok. Well then just mix it up with the F4D1 string and throw in a EX Smoke bomb there just in case. "But oh F4D1 EX Smoke bomb has a gap and I'll get armor for 12%" fine then do F1D1 Fade away "Oh but characters with uhh da slide will punish" oh well. It's a better string than you make it out to be. But maybe I'm just a lunatic who knows. I'm done bitching smoke tho. Got it out of my system.
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If you go for an ender that literally leaves you at a disadvantage on hit, then yes, you can get 27% out of it. However, if you go for a practical ender, the best you can sensibly get out off it is 24%. This is why players like REO describe this site as training-mode veterans. Just jumping in the lab with a character for 30 seconds is no match for actual experience and understanding of what you need to do to not fall on your ass with a character.
Regardless of how strong you think that is for whatever reason, does not change the FACTS that it doesn't cancel into anything, has a gap between the two hits, and only leads to ~25% meterless. Everything I told you is factually accurate, saying that you think the string is still crazy strong does not change this. How the fuck you know all this but still think that string is overpowered in MKX is another question, but it's whatever.
So your solution to getting around his mid string having a gap, is either spending a bar, or just pushing an unsafe string into them. And that somehow this makes his comparatively bad mid string into an overpowered one. By mixing it up with unsafe shit, or spending a bar.
actually he's not allowed to have Mid string either. Even if it is only as long as most characters D4's, negative on block, cannot be cancelled into any sort of special or pressure, and has a gap between the two hits, and gets low profiled by some pokes, and only leads to 24% meterless.
DB4 does not leave you at disadvantage.
it leaves you neutral on hit, vs an opponent with wake-up options. You are in every way at a disadvantage after DB4.
When you said this stuff "How about we give Smoke another version of that string except make it have no gap, hit comfirmable and the last hit launches for a combo? Yeah that's not (soap bar in my mouth).[...]If you're having trouble hit confirming that then just use F42. It's minus 5 and launches which is dumb"
I mean Ig I used words that were too strong to describe it. If it sounded like I was complaining about the string being too strong I'm sorry, just got really into what I was writing lol. What I meant was the string is good cause so and so reasons. But like I said I feel my other reasons can back up me saying this character is good.
"There can be only one."
Sorry I meant F2(1). Nothing after 1 is guaranteed.
Nothing is guaranteed sure but if he does F21 smoke bomb most of not all pokes trade with it and it's a trade you can't afford to lose.
you can jump out into full combo punish
