Tech - Dualist Safe Bicycle Kick Setup

[FOREVER EL1TE]

I found this weeks ago and I'm just now uploading this. This helps discover how plus the orb a little bit because frame data says that it's "+129" which isn't true at all.
The orb can provide a true block string after it explodes even if I use X-Ray (23 frames of startup)
So as far as I know bicycle kick is -13. 23 -13=10. He should be plus 10 afterwards if timed right. But if you add recovery from the special I guess not. Anyways

Other dualist explore. This can probably be very good

@AK L0rdoftheFLY @Kickbykick
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[SM StarGazer]

Its gross and you should stop. I've had enough of feet walking on mi' gaddamn face. STAHP IT!

 

[KIllaByte]

dualist almost isn't ass

 

[FOREVER EL1TE]

dualist almost isn't ass

Dualist top 5 bro mtn dew

 

[scarsunseen]

What if you set AI to wake-up attack?

 

[FOREVER EL1TE]

What if you set AI to wake-up attack?

I haven't tested it but they should stuff you (with armor) because F21 doesn't break armor.

 

[Olcadan13]

opens up doors. could this be done off a blockstring instead of a combo like you did?

 

[Kickbykick]

Being working on using the orb in a block-string. After 112 orb I do 3 teebags (lol. for timing) and f213 ss f213 for a block string. Means we can make anything safe with the orb. Good find. Did you try the jump test to estimate how minus?

 

[FOREVER EL1TE]

opens up doors. could this be done off a blockstring instead of a combo like you did?

Any normal canceled into orb is more than -11 so you might get punished for canceling into orb

 

[FOREVER EL1TE]

Being working on using the orb in a block-string. After 112 orb I do 3 teebags (lol. for timing) and f213 ss f213 for a block string. Means we can make anything safe with the orb. Good find. Did you try the jump test to estimate how minus?

No I didn't try the jump test, I'll try it next time

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

sorry i didn't help you with this. What happens if they get hit with f21 BK? Does the orb combo after? if so you may have found the goto option select in the corner.

This is assuming they can't just wakeup out of it or delay wakeup to fuck you over.

 

[FOREVER EL1TE]

sorry i didn't help you with this. What happens if they get hit with f21 BK? Does the orb combo after? if so you may have found the goto option select in the corner.

This is assuming they can't just wakeup out of it or delay wakeup to fuck you over.

If they delay wakeup. You'll just whiff F21 and be safe if they wakeup. I haven't tested it if it combos but I think it does or its a frame too early

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

Ok after testing.

You cannot time BK to be safe and for the alternative, if they are hit, get the full combo when orb explodes.

You can however, end in 112 low orb, and do one of three things.

F44 bk - on hit this will pop them up for a full combo. Gets blown up by delayed wake up. On block is unsafe.

B2 into more oki with an orb out. - 50/50 from f4 and can still lead to big damage by using 22 and f4 for more 50/50 after b2 splat.

Or 112 bk - this blows up delayed wake up and combos on hit.

All are unsafe on block but make the original tech better by conditioning opponent to block and attempt punish.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

Or the opposite. The original tech makes those 3 options better by conditioning them to try and armor

 

[Bruno-NeoSpace]

Nice tech!!

 

[Sage Leviathan]

Ok after testing.

You cannot time BK to be safe

then what did I just watch.

 

[FOREVER EL1TE]

then what did I just watch.

Maybe he means, you can't make it safe and be able to combo into the orb at the same time

 

[Bruno-NeoSpace]

Ok after testing.

You can however, end in 112 low orb, and do one of three things.

F44 bk - on hit this will pop them up for a full combo. Gets blown up by delayed wake up. On block is unsafe.

B2 into more oki with an orb out. - 50/50 from f4 and can still lead to big damage by using 22 and f4 for more 50/50 after b2 splat.

Or 112 bk - this blows up delayed wake up and combos on hit.

All are unsafe on block but make the original tech better by conditioning opponent to block and attempt punish.

Sometimes I like to do: 113 ~ S3 ~ low orb ~ D2 ~ B1 ~ full charge

Have you tested it? It's a good setup too

I put this setup in my video, look (1:25seg)

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

Sometimes I like to do: 113 ~ S3 ~ low orb ~ D2 ~ B1 ~ full charge

Have you tested it? It's a good setup too

I put this setup in my video, look (1:25seg)

works nicely good job

 

[The_Tile]

I haven't tested it but they should stuff you (with armor) because F21 doesn't break armor.

Have you tried B1xxbicyclekick and b12xxbicycle kick? If the timing to either of those works with the orb & bicycle kick you'll have a safe armor stuffing setup too.

 

[Kickbykick]

Sometimes I like to do: 113 ~ S3 ~ low orb ~ D2 ~ B1 ~ full charge

Have you tested it? It's a good setup too

I put this setup in my video, look (1:25seg)

 

[FOREVER EL1TE]

Have you tried B1xxbicyclekick and b12xxbicycle kick? If the timing to either of those works with the orb & bicycle kick you'll have a safe armor stuffing setup too.

B12 stuffs armor. But I haven't tested it yet to see if the orb explodes at the right time and there a frame gap between B12 BK

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

i just hate the accidental bf2 motion and i get b1 FK instead

 

[FOREVER EL1TE]

i just hate the accidental bf2 motion and i get b1 FK instead

NRS says hey

 

[Kickbykick]

Why not make db2 plus on block lol.

There is a jump test.
In this video I showed that f1 jails.
I kept on trying several setups and I arrived at the point that b1 jails after the orb exploded. Its up to +9 on block.