Work your way in, stay patient and safe. No birdarangs. Keep jumping to a minimum, even in jump range. Walk them into the corner. Meterburn roll can be good, but only after you established you can handle zoning and don't need it, therefore its not expected.
Robin has no frame traps outside of birdarang on guard and far blue trait on guard (I guess 1 then d1 is a legit frame trap, but an almost useless one). Robin doesn't have mixups, they are all gimicks. His lows are bad in general and has no combo starting low outside of f2d3 (reactable and no stagger potential), low trait (very limited combo damage without corner) mb birdarang (limited combo damage without corner). Mostly you can block standing and be ok (react to f2d3). If you have a low bomb under you, you can react to the fact robin did anything else than blow up the bomb and stand up then block low again as robin has no unreactable overheads. Robin lacks a good crossup.
so none of his trait teleports are really serious then? and his mb sword flip has a gap right?
8 frame gap
alright, i just need to play the MU with some poeple i guess, any volunteers?
If you're playing against deadshot players, it may be best to just play supergirl or black adam for those MU's as Zoning is one of Robin's greatest weaknesses. Once you get in you still have to be careful because Deadshot has 50/50's that will knock you fullscreen away again.
Robin is whack.
I think it's J2 into Db2. If blocked Db2 doesn't come out and it's safe, however on hit Db2 will combo into damage.
i'm wondering if this can apply to someone like darkseid, and if so, how does this OS work? how do u do it?
Can't speak for Darkseid but for Robin you perform a jump in 2 and as soon as the j2 connects you input sword dance (db2). If your opponent blocks the j2 sword dance will not come out and instead you will walk back blocking, but if the j2 connects it will hit confirm into sword dance and you can MB for more damage and Birdarang pressure.
whats the timing tho so that it comes out on hit and not block?
lol
Actually I don't think that would help him at all. As his only low, I think his sweep should be safe and I think he should be able to throw trait fullscreen behind the enemy with added cooldown to balance it.
It's like you read my mind, this and making sweep safe-ish plus fixing all his hitbox issues.Ok guys I would like to know what you guys think about these possible buffs/nerfs to Robin. Please understand this is only my opinion. Firstly, I am assuming all his whiffing issues will be addressed so that they are working as intended.
Buffs
Nerfs
- I think his trait should be adjusted to include a far version of each birdarang that goes fullscreen or atleast 75% of the screen.
- 212 should no longer have a gap as its already negative on block and with trait cancels it still only -1 on block.
Honestly, Robin is a fair character that is well balanced but falls short due to the focus on zoning in this game. He really doesn't need much
- Increase the recharge time of trait (To compensate for far trait variations)
Btw NRS gods if you guys read this I will appreciate anything extra
Agreed I honestly like Robins gameplan as is but against zoners like Darkseid with projectiles you cant jump which result in a knockdown and Deadshot whose projectiles recover so quickly going for birdarang fullscreen is suicide. A far version of trait would allow him to close the distance or atleast check the opponent if you make a read and it wouldn't be spammable thanks to the increased recharge time.
Yeah here no problem.Agreed I honestly like Robins gameplan as is but against zoners like Darkseid with projectiles you cant jump which result in a knockdown and Deadshot whose projectiles recover so quickly going for birdarang fullscreen is suicide. A far version of trait would allow him to close the distance or atleast check the opponent if you make a read and it wouldn't be spammable thanks to the increased recharge time.
Btw do you by any chance have a link to the robin discord
