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General/Other - TriBorg R.I.P Triborg 2016 -- They Were Never Allowed To Live

THTB

When's Syzoth?
What the hell are you talking about smoke is not fine do you even play the character we dont have any armor no damage no guaranteed vortex no fast teleport no fast projectile b21 whiffs all the time tell me how is smoke still fine
B3 is still a guaranteed option. If they don't want to be blown up by b3, they need to block. B3 is also closer in frame data to b1, so fuzzy guarding it isn't as easy. The hit advantage nerfs did nothing to his vortex. If anything, it's actually kinda better.

Also, can we stop this bill that Smoke needs armor?
 
did you really just say what happened to Cyrax is a fix?

you are lost my fellow TYM'er.

A fix would have been change Net to knockdown on drop

not remove all capability of net in combos.

cyrax combo diversity just died and so did Yellow as well
They said the same to Cyber Sub, actually the iceball delay makes the F2 mixups better, give it a few days to figure new stuff out, no character should hace a reset, net low bomb and grab, that was it... that was the best way they found to fix it.
 

Lemon1991

#4 Quan-chi on Deadly Alliance
Wish I fought more triborgs. I usually end up fighting the same 5 characters online: Sub Zero, Scorpion, Mileena, Ermac, and Leatherface.
I actually stopped fighting those characters, and just went on Triborg marathons, with most of them being sektor.
 

Red Hood MKX

Mercenary dog
B3 is still a guaranteed option. If they don't want to be blown up by b3, they need to block. B3 is also closer in frame data to b1, so fuzzy guarding it isn't as easy. The hit advantage nerfs did nothing to his vortex. If anything, it's actually kinda better.

Also, can we stop this bill that Smoke needs armor?
Do you evem play smoke or is he a pocket character for you any true smoke main is disgusted by these changez the character was mediocre at best pre patch now with these nrefs are you kiding me
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
They said the same to Cyber Sub, actually the iceball delay makes the F2 mixups better, give it a few days to figure new stuff out, no character should hace a reset, net low bomb and grab, that was it... that was the best way they found to fix it.
no they could have done many things among. make net drop a knockdown and remove the restand would have been suffecient.

you don't destroy a character and remove his main combo extender net. thats dumb as hell.

this patch better be a joke. or they better refund me.

and on the HTB's so many characters still have them. so why nerf 1 and all many to keep?
 

I GOT HANDS

Official Infrared Scorp wid gapless Wi-Fi pressure
B3 U4 miss divekick standing 4 ice ball then F2 most times you will get the knockdown close to you for the ice bomb mixup, go ahead and test it.
oh gotcha, i see what you mean now

but that could already be done anyway, except now you can now press any normal including poke to get out of the HTB mix-up anyway so it's worse than before. You will always be better off going for damage, except thats been nerfed now too
 

FROST_

KH | DsV BLOODxGOD
Smh TYM doesn't learn nerf first then lab later as @themilkman014 says.. I'm happy to say I saw this coming though but hey look at the bright side.. A list cage, F/T, got the mk9 Sonya treatment. Smh after 7 years of nrs games you would think people would STOP BITCHING but lol you where wrong for thinking.
P.S I don't main triborg or even use him I just feel your pain. #ShinnokBoys
 

Crusty

Retired ATM
Just lifted today, actually. :p

Real talk, lift sucked as a reactionary AA, though. Good on a read jump from like half-screen, though. Also, if my memory is serving me correctly, most of the top tiers had jump-ins that most of the cast couldn't even handle.
GL's lift was a top 10 anti-airs in the game. I fucking hated that thing.
 

THTB

When's Syzoth?
GL's lift was a top 10 anti-airs in the game. I fucking hated that thing.
It was top 10 if you did it on a read. You for sure weren't reacting to a number of jump-ins with it on a consistent basis. His d2 was better for that type of stuff.
 

Crusty

Retired ATM
It was top 10 if you did it on a read. You for sure weren't reacting to a number of jump-ins with it on a consistent basis. His d2 was better for that type of stuff.
You can react to someone jumping at you 1/3 of the screen away, it's (soap bar in my mouth). That thing stops a lot of things even point blank, however I see your point.

A lot of moves are 11 frames and it can be used on reaction lol
 

THTB

When's Syzoth?
Do you evem play smoke or is he a pocket character for you any true smoke main is disgusted by these changez the character was mediocre at best pre patch now with these nrefs are you kiding me
Yes, I play Smoke. I probably play him better than you do. #ShotsFired #ThugLife #DabbinOnYou

For real, actually read the changes and look at his frame data. Should tell you how much of an impact the changes actually have on him.
 

Red Hood MKX

Mercenary dog
Yes, I play Smoke. I probably play him better than you do. #ShotsFired #ThugLife #DabbinOnYou

For real, actually read the changes and look at his frame data. Should tell you how much of an impact the changes actually have on him.
Some of you smoke players are just like cybernetic players you would by a bag off dog shit for 100 dollars and thank the guy who sold it to you.

You just have to realize whats going on a stop justifying these insane nerfs that happens to our characters. Characters that arent even that good smoke had lots of holes in his game pre patch now with these nerfs give me a break. characters like milena johny cage dvorah takeda all have insane tools. smokes 25 percent vortex prepatch has nothing on johny cages 38 percent guanteed pressure after nutpunch every time you get hit how does he jeep his guaranteed vortex and we don't

And it doesn't make any sense talking that your smoke beats my smoke my smoke beats your smoke all talk is cheap online you should now that buy now
 

IBreakemoffI

Shut Down!
It is with the saddest of hearts that I relate my sorrow at the death of 4 of our dearest friends:



Died: March 29. 2016 -- They were never allowed to live

Cause of Death: Negative frames and ruined hard-to-blockables

Triborg didn't even place at final round, it's clear he was absolute bottom-tier and borderline unviable, but since people have to complain he now met an end. Net isn't useful any more, freeze bomb is abysmal, I don't even know what Sektor had but it's gone, and Smoke should probably hire himself out for stage shows and parties.

Leave it to Derek, 'Jen' and Tyler Landsdown to kill 4 characters at the same time.. Mass roboticide

TYM I hope you've learned your lesson, it's Kano 3.0,4.0,5.0 and 6.0... MK9 all over again, and this is why we can't have nice things. Denzell Terry I hope you are reading this and sincerely feel the sorrow you've caused children all over america for the injustice you did to some of Mortal Kombat's most lovable figures. REO after playing Kabal for 3 years I thought you'd have more sensitivity towards exciting and innovative tournmament characters. Pig of the Hut.. You know what you did.

P.S. In all seriousness, hopefully people will take this patch with a grain of salt and just play it out before jumping to conclusions.

P.S. 2: Cyber Sub I tried to find a picture with you and couldn't, I'm so sorry

P.S. 3: I heard Floe's going to quit playing MKX in tournament because of this, and I'm not surprised

P.S. 4: I love you TYM -- all of you. Never change.
did you really just say what happened to Cyrax is a fix?

you are lost my fellow TYM'er.

A fix would have been change Net to knockdown on drop

not remove all capability of net in combos.

cyrax combo diversity just died and so did Yellow as well
Okay, so before anyone says, YES this is a complaining thread and if you don't like it then get off TYM cause you clearly don't belong here.

So, can someone please explain why, above all, Smoke and Cyber sub-zero needed to get nerfed. Who asked for this? I say this as a guy who isn't maining them and after having watched what happened to Madzin (a phenomenal player) recently (using cyber sub) against Foxy and how cyber sub got (no offence) bodied I honestly can't see it. Who asked for any triborg variation to get nerfed?

With Cyrax, I can sort of understand with certain unlockable setups and how perhaps he should have got more scaling etc but honestly the truth is, NRS really got Triborg right. They made them all powerful in a variety of different ways without them being OP as they all have clear weaknesses, notably their neutral game.

I completely agree with Alien nerfs, Bcho I'm unfamiliar with so can't say.

NRS, you're a fantastic company: you've fixed your net code, you've given us great DLC and overall you've made another incredible game. Just give me my robots back.

Thanks, what do you think? Was it unnecessary or am I wrong?
Unnecessary and it took my thrill from wanting to play and killed it. Cyrax was so fun and I haven't had a character that I enjoyed until cyrax. I haven't felt the want to play since mk9 as I would be imagining new combos while I was at work. Blow out after three hover bombs? They were scaling!! Plus a net isn't guaranteed so let me have my reward for the risk. Even with the so called dirt that great players were bodying, I would still get rushed down. So yeah I agree totally that this is BS.
 

IBreakemoffI

Shut Down!
So I mained cyrax since the day he launched. <3'd the character since MK3. I 100% understand the need of a nerf. I even understand the nerf of the length of the net. I still see you can still net into F43, just a very tight window. But.. 3 bombs? No reset? The one armored reversal is now still armor, but can no longer be followed by a combo? Also, if you randomly land a bomb, you can't net them? So take away Cyrax's reset. What can you now do to open someone up? 1112? B1? Just seems Cyrax's ability to open people up got the biggest hit out of anything in the patch. Sektor's armor break nerf seemed unnecessary too. Spending a bar and sacrificing damage seemed like a good payoff, that didn't need a nerf. I won't be dropping Cyrax, but man... I can't lie I'm not happy. Here's to you other Cyrax mains. Here's to the beers we'll need to re-figure out the character. :X
I disagree the length of the net is stupid. Plus the HTB was getting blocked! Plus I loved the air bomb combos. :(
 
Not only did smoke not deserve nerfs, he desperately needed buffs. The c/csz bomb set ups werent that hard to block, i only figured theyd shorten cyraxes combos, and I figured smoke would get armor and a longer smoke towards
 

THTB

When's Syzoth?
Some of you smoke players are just like cybernetic players you would by a bag off dog shit for 100 dollars and thank the guy who sold it to you.

You just have to realize whats going on a stop justifying these insane nerfs that happens to our characters. Characters that arent even that good smoke had lots of holes in his game pre patch now with these nerfs give me a break. characters like milena johny cage dvorah takeda all have insane tools. smokes 25 percent vortex prepatch has nothing on johny cages 38 percent guanteed pressure after nutpunch every time you get hit how does he jeep his guaranteed vortex and we don't

And it doesn't make any sense talking that your smoke beats my smoke my smoke beats your smoke all talk is cheap online you should now that buy now
Dude. Smoke is still doing the exact same shit. The ONLY actual nerf that affects him is the damage reduction. You're acting like they took EVERYTHING away from him, and he basically didn't even change. He is intact outside of damage. Normal smoke bomb is actually not even punishable anymore. His vortex actually BENEFITS from the slower b3.

Like, I'm more or less convinced you're just trolling right now. Because you'd have to be one ignorant person to actually think Smoke really got "insane" nerfs.