What's new

Poison Ivy Rant / Rework ideas

I've been playing poison ivy since the game first came out and I wanted to main her because I actually like poison ivy but I was disappointed in her play style when I played her... but it was just the release of the game and I thought they would fix her but the only patch took around 3 months and all they did was gave her faster startup and a growing hit box on vines and reduced her damage after up datura... basically this rant is about all the things wrong with poison ivy and how they should fix it

#1- her character model: two words , SOCCER MOM. When you think of poison you think of a seductive character someone with a lot of sex appeal but poison ivy injustice is just not that... first it's too long and why it's in a braid I don't know it's just too mom ish... second that lettuce leaf around her neck that can't be removed needs to go!! Give her more gear like starfire just leafy-er

Also this is extra but if y'all could have a legendary head piece for poison ivy that gives her the Snapchat flower crown or something just an idea

#2: her playstyle: honestly poison ivy feels like a soccer mom that took karate/ self defense classes to protect her "babies" instead of her plants fighting for her. I never thought NRS character design was horrible idea until I played poison ivy... poison ivy is supposed to control her plants to fight for her and stay in the background and sets up her opponent( so basically a zoned/ setup character) but in injustice she uses more Melee moves than the so called "rushdown" characters! She uses her fists more than she does fighting with her plants ex. All of her combo strings, her grab, her datura, etc. only her b3 and her d2 uses a vine like how? She might as well be black canary with all these fighting styles she knows... and know you're probably saying "oh it's a fighting game you have to fight up close" even though 90 percent of the cast is zoners... and characters like scarecrow and brainiac have long ranged melee attacks. Poison ivy doesn't....

#3: her pet: this one makes the least amount of sense.... dexter vs nightshade....part 1: poison ivy actually has the power to control her plants unlike dexter who is not apart of atrocitus yet she can't control her pet ?? Confusing. Also poison Ivy's pet goes away on grab ( even if you tech it) or hit or push block even though you can't control it. Also poison ivy doesn't have as versatility with her pet unlike dextar. Also her pet can making her moves negative on hit so they can block like if they had aquamans trait or poke back and make negative on block even if the move is plus because the pet changes the hit and block advantage which pairs well with the fact her pet goes away on hit

How they should fix her:
Deadly kiss: change it to a pheromone blow kiss that's like Sonya blades but meterburn makes them come to poison ivy like quanchi
And safe on meterburn and bigger pushback on block

Datura stance: changes to a vine stance tat summons a vine behind poison ivy giving her 3 choices... 3 is a low that grabs the opponent by the legs tossing them up in the air (like up datura). 2 vine pulls enemy out of the air slamming them to the other side bouncing them for a combo can meter burn to slam them again back to the beginning side
1 reaches vine in front of poison ivy grab the opponent and swingin them to the other side launching them full screen
As you can probably tell you can do these in order for a combo or separately for other combo potential... I would work the same as datura with no movement or block and recall just different choices

Bed of thorns: change to prevent people from jumping or using abilities that lift the enemy up like supergirls upward punch thingy... or increase the damage

Nightshade: change to be controllable and projectiles shoot fast and quick like deadshots bullets since the pet can't move unlike dextar and the pet can now track upwards anti airing

And lastly just change her combos to give her more range on her combos using her plants and vines and more Enders pushing the enemy away from her so she can "get back into her zoning" and possibly a combo that has a projectile in it like dead shot or starfires b1,2

And no I'm not bad with poison ivy I still give people the mix but some of the stuff is just playstle changes but that PET... it's got to change it's NOT OK

Just my opinion
 

RevetLeafing

Tanya, Tanqui, and Kaprisun Specialist
I picked her up as my secondary and I agree on that lettuce being around her neck lmao, needs to go. Also, I don't know if you've noticed this but when she hits it's actually her vines on her shoulders that are hitting you, it owuld just look weird if Ivy wasn't moving her hands while her vines were, she's basically controlling the vines with her hands.
 
i know I just don't like it. I just don't get why poison ivy is fighting so much up close anyway if she's supposed to be a "zoner" and I personally don't like the plants they have no purpose except just visuals she's still a karate master not a zoner
 

myri

Time Warrior
She looks and sounds awesome I just kinda want her playstyle to be more fun and use her plant based abilities more. Imagine if NRS had gone totally into making her a plant based zoner (I knew we have enough zoners but just think about it) and gave her a range od different vine attacks and different plant creatures she could summon instead of just the one drone like creature.

Make her trait summon two additional creatures besides nightshade, i.e. trait+back is one, trait+down is two, and trait+forward is three. Make her able to cover the screen with vines or have some sort of plant setup move like Alien's eggs from MKX I dunno. Probably none of this will happen and I'll probably still play her regardless but they could've done a lot more with her based on her abilities.
 

ImperatrixSindel

Too bad YOU... will DIE!
Premium Supporter
Ivy has had martial melee skills since at least the 80s, girl.




Also she looks fine. The hair is cute. The lettuce leaf could go, though, I agree.
 
eh, only thing she needs is a better wake up & thats it for me lol & they need fix her head like.. am i the only one who thinks her head is fucking enormous? lmaooo
 

Baconlord

Proud follower of the church of Cetrion
1. She's easily the hottest chick in the game. And her braid is top tier

2. She users plants in pretty much every attack. She's really just dancing and doing gymnastics while her plants bite you

3. Don't you dare disrespect my yoshi
 
Ivy has had martial melee skills since at least the 80s, girl.




Also she looks fine. The hair is cute. The lettuce leaf could go, though, I agree.
That was in the 80s l. characters change over time look at any tv show or other video games she doesn't do martial arts... she fight with her plants from a distance look at any batsman game where she's in it
 

Baconlord

Proud follower of the church of Cetrion
That was in the 80s l. characters change over time look at any tv show or other video games she doesn't do martial arts... she fight with her plants from a distance look at any batsman game where she's in it
If nrs designed characters based on the arkham games then banes only move would be running into a wall and joker would be pumped full of super venom
 
If nrs designed characters based on the arkham games then banes only move would be running into a wall and joker would be pumped full of super venom
lol that's not what I said what I'm saying is in all of poison most RECENT gameplay and shows and comics... SHE DOESNT NOT FIGHT WITH HER HANDS... she SUMMONs plants to FIGHT FOR HER... i get that's it's a fighting game and all and that she needs some upclose moves but 90 percent of her is upclose rather than zoning
 
1. She's easily the hottest chick in the game. And her braid is top tier

2. She users plants in pretty much every attack. She's really just dancing and doing gymnastics while her plants bite you

3. Don't you dare disrespect my yoshi
#1 you clearly haven't seen starfire... now that is the most beautiful girl in the game

#2 I could give you a million reason on how your yoshi disrespects poison ivy
 
She is a utility character like cap cold or aqua. She is my meant to have tools to be a main I think.
How can she be a utility character without any utilities? She doesn't have a projectile, no barriers between her and her opponent, no long ranged combos to have distance advantage, she has none of the same characteristics of cc or aquaman. And no nightshade is not a barrier you can disrespect that pet as if it's not even there
 

Rex24

There are no bad seeds, only bad men
I know your frustration, I’ve been playing her religiously and stuck with her through thick and thin. Sometimes I feel like with all that fine execution and careful playstyle you need to cultivate if you main her is not at all rewarding
 
I know your frustration, I’ve been playing her religiously and stuck with her through thick and thin. Sometimes I feel like with all that fine execution and careful playstyle you need to cultivate if you main her is not at all rewarding
Ugh, finally someone who knows the struggle
 

Rex24

There are no bad seeds, only bad men
Ugh, finally someone who knows the struggle
She would be a great character if they made her gear move “flowing earth” available as a part of her main toolset, make it not so safe on block but she’d still have a decent wakeup
 

Lokheit

Noob
I agree that Kiss grab should be replaced with Sonya-esque pheromone spray, still restands but it's not a useless high grab. Kiss being a high grab makes it worse than it should (you don't benefit from ticks like in MKX as holding down covers block and duck and it just makes execution harder because potato). Maybe change the animation with the supermove and make the kiss the supermove starter or something like that.

The other thing I agree is that trait should respond to inputs, right now there are plenty of situations where it actually works against your gameplan and 90% of the cast can get rid of it in seconds if you try to pressure them anyway.

EDIT: Oh and while they're at it they could remove bed of thorns from the game as that thing is useless and your opponent will thank you for those 60+ frames that deal zero damage and have no utility effects.
 

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
How can she be a utility character without any utilities? She doesn't have a projectile, no barriers between her and her opponent, no long ranged combos to have distance advantage, she has none of the same characteristics of cc or aquaman. And no nightshade is not a barrier you can disrespect that pet as if it's not even there

Doesn’t needs projectile when drills are already powerful against a majority of the cast. If you don’t have any aerial game or have good zoning, you’re forced to play her game, and it’s really good.

No long ranged combos but b2 has really good range and it’s one of the best mids in the game. F3 go more than full screen. F212 in a full screen HKD.

B2/F3/Trait/Barkskin/Drills are the barriers. Every character in the game has to deal with at least one of those.

Level up man. This is a desperate cry for attention and all you’re doing is making yourself look bad