how do you know he is good at other game?If it was then he would be playing other games that pay more.
So we went from "Omg gonna be 15 Black Adam's in Top 8 he's beyond broken" to "Aquaman is #1" after one eventHe's probably number 1.
I mean, I wasn't here for a lot of the tier hysteria, but I don't think anyone other than Theo has Aquaman less than top 3.So we went from "Omg gonna be 15 Black Adam's in Top 8 he's beyond broken" to "Aquaman is #1" after one event
You realize that it's impossible for anyone to take this seriously.
Reeaaaalllyyy...I mean, I wasn't here for a lot of the tier hysteria, but I don't think anyone other than Theo has Aquaman less than top 3.
Ok about the "tier whoring" thing yes I checked it now and only now I see it wasn't you saying that but it was somebody else, my mistake, sorry for that.Okay, you are actually being being personal and you're even quoting stuff that I haven't even said or mentioned. Go look back on the comments I've made since the EVO win and look for anything that comes closes to "tier-whoring" or "overhyped". When you find something we can continue this conversation because I feel you're making things up as you go at this point.
P.S. I detailed that Dragon deserved his win.
Every game is gonna have a couple of characters of that calibur at launch, regardless of the company. You and others need to understand that already.He stops building meter during trident rush, problem solved. Thanks NRS.
Mk9 was their first attempt at breaking into the competitive FG mold. Yea theres going to be dumbshit in there. Fast forward to 2017 after multiple games and we still get braindead autopilot bullshit. Now im wondering whats going to be their attempt at the next braindead character because it never fails at what they can come up with.
I would go and say that both MKX and IJ2 were the best release day of any NRS game thus far. As for any more reasons why Aquaman might be good, considering that WB are the ones who in charge of NRS and WB are connected to DC, it's still very unlikely but not completely impossible. I think it was just that Aqua happen to be that good at launch and that's it, he's gonna get some nerfs at the patch of course.I mostly agree. IJ2 probably has the best release day balance of any NRS game. I'll even go as far as to say that a character who excels at chip damage is a very interesting archetype. It's just in the context of everything else, I don't understand what they were going for. Why is his zoning so good? Why does he have plus frames? Why can he convert combos from jump distance? Why does his trait even exist?
I don't think anyone can attribute this just to legacy. Aquaman is debatably better than he was before, while Green Lantern (someone who wasn't even top 5 in IJ1) was gutted like a fish and filled new specials. I think there's something else going on that has nothing to do with balance. Maybe DC wanted Aquaman to be good and laid an executive order on NRS. I don't know. Regardless, I cannot make sense of this character.
Lol no.He's probably number 1.
Well, can you make a case? Can you explain why his tools are reasonable? Or is their some respected member of the community that DOESN'T have aquaman in their top 3?Reeaaaalllyyy...
apparently they both lose to scarecrow or somethingLol no.
Black Adam and Catwoman are better. If you disagree please enlighten us on the matchups those two characters lose. Because AM loses to both of them and others like Atrocitus and Ivy.
I've heard this and while I kind of understand it i'm still skeptical that it's anything other than 5-5. Time will tell I guess.apparently they both lose to scarecrow or something
I don't agree on Black Adam being better... but he MIGHT be. I think a claim like "Black Adam is better than Aquaman" is a reasonable claim. Intelligent people could disagree on that.Lol no.
Black Adam and Catwoman are better. If you disagree please enlighten us on the matchups those two characters lose. Because AM loses to both of them and others like Atrocitus and Ivy.
Another common fallacy. Read Eventhubs and how they talk about both SFV and Ultimate Marvel (and have for months).This thread right here is why our finals are on saturday now )=
QFTT.So we went from "Omg gonna be 15 Black Adam's in Top 8 he's beyond broken" to "Aquaman is #1" after one event
You realize that it's impossible for anyone to take talking points like this seriously.
That's fine and I get your point. It was just your additional comment about him being banned in tournaments I took differently.I was answering "why do people hate him for no reason'". Whether or not he's served his time wasn't the reason for my post. You can't cheat in a tournament and expect everyone to forgive you.
QFTT.I fail to understand why certain people are upset about high level players using the better characters in the game in order to have an opportunity to win thousands of dollars. You may be entitled to watching the event free of charge from the convenience of your couch, but you are not entitled to a high level player's character selection and your subjective opinion of an interesting viewing experience. The fact is that Injustice 2 is the most balanced fighting game that NRS has ever released without patching. The community, along with me and my predictions, expected Black Adam players to dominate the top 8, yet all of them lost, including the best player in the scene.
If you intend to make a fair and coherent argument, I think you can criticize the game's top tier characters and their accessibility level. Not only are the current top tier characters the best characters in the game, they are also the easiest to use in terms of execution. So if am a dedicated Grodd player, why should I spend a myriad of hours practicing my combos and cancels when I can learn Aquaman for less effort and more reward? Most fighting games have presently become more accessible, but the least execution-heavy characters in the game do not necessarily have to be the best. I think this argument is constructive and fair and does not discredit high level players and their accomplishments.
Dude shut the fuck up.I'm actually not crapping on him in any way, however, I am critical of his decision to drop Ivy for Aquaman but I respect his choices and realizes it what got him the money. But, as far as respect is concerned, he definitely lost mine for sure.
This.Dude shut the fuck up.
You've called his win fraudulent, said he deserved to be booed by the community as the same characters and players have won everything (which is totally untrue.....different winning character and player of every major so far. If anything the most redundantly successful player has been semiij on WOTG), said you don't respect him.....
....yet you're not crapping on him?
You sound like the biggest scrub in the world. Like dragon has some moral obligation to some clown on tym to play the character you have decided he should play because it's more honorable. Gimme a break.
I just can't with this bullshit anymore.
Dragon outplayed everyone, honeybee included. Boo hoo!!! Aquaman is a shitty matchup for flash! Waaaah!! Honeybee has chosen to make his way exclusively playing flash, and that's cool, but it basically guarantees he will bump into amazing players maining a character who gives flash a hard time. Plenty of other players have the same issue, but the majority of them pick a secondary and tertiary even to cover especially bad MUs. That's fighting games.
We all know aquaman will be nerfed along with the undisputed strongest characters in the game. It's a moot point by now. But this narrative is so comical: that dragon is a bum that picks potato characters and just scrubs out victories.
How come people suck Theo's dick when he spends 3 games walking backward with aquaman and fishing for whiff punishes and trident rushing his heart out? I mean...damn.
The community narrative is simply "lul dragon sucks and is carried by his characters" and whatever I guess, but the obvious flaw with that is that all characters are available to all players, and despite the fact that we saw a ton of top tier character representation at the end of the day the best players were there in the end and that's that.
Honeybee was a hero, congrats, and a big congrats to dragon
The fact that you attribute dragon's success to pressing d1 trident rush pretty much shows your post to be worthless. Again, if all it requires is d1 trident rush, why weren't there 5 aquamen in top 8, and why didn't honeybee beat dragon in the mirror?He's a scrub because he called Aquaman a brain dead character? Black Adam and Aquaman are the two strongest characters in the game and they are both mechanically easier than most of the cast. When there is an Aquaman or a Black Adam in a majority of the competitive games, they need to be toned down.
And congrats to Dragon for winning Evo, but pressing D1 Trident Rush to win isn't gonna get you respect from people.