well first off do you even believe she was low tier before the patch? i am of the belief she was the worst in the game or bottom 2 pre-patch. if you dont agree that she was terrible before the patch then there is no need in trying to convince you now
My post is not meant to be combative. Its meant to discuss what people think of her. Some of us may have insight on the characters that others don't. I make content to help people understand what characters are capable of compiling strategy that may not be widely known.
Sonya can hard to fight, however I feel like frost loses to Sonya the same way other characters do. Her options are just strong every where on screen.
my mistake if i came off as combative but most people usually arent looking to hear me out when i say things like that. I'd like to think i understand the character within the confines of this game better than anyone or at least as well as the best Frost user's do. So if i sound like im undermining your opinion i apologize but thats kind of how i speak.
Yeah I've actually been struggling against Skarlet so I believe that, but I'm also very much in the learning process with Frost. I believe Cetrion too, she's my original main and she's just an incredible character.
stand 2 is a 13f high if you see it just low poke even if you get hit she cant db4 into a combo and odds are she was expecting a block so she doesnt follow up with spin or drill. also being +5 and the fasted mid being 11f means if you are frame perfect b1 comes out in 6f....characters with 6f d1's exist and if you arent frame pefect a 7f jab with a better hitbox will win. i know that if you do it properly it works but even assuming you link b12 and they block then you do what? spin and be -4 and run that mindgame that leads to......a throw? a low poke? being -4 is cool half the tie but against 9f mid stagger pressure characters like liu kang or jax etc youre in their blender now.
I could possibly be setting it up wrong but from what I’ve practiced you can backdash 22 b12 and punish her for it. Also I’m getting some weird interaction if the first hit misses it seems like she isn’t as plus??? Idk might be me or a bug someone else test it. But yea I stopped believing in 22 a long time ago. The rest of the things are as you said “low reward”
They're also basically no risk to the low reward though like I said.
Backdashing is not a hard read. You winning proves nothing. And she has no pressure lol if people know the matchup none of that shit happens, just block low. You can do the 344 setup on hit but it’s a reset that sacrifices damage as I aid. Frost is bad. Other characters can do what she does better and that’s a fact not my opinion.
She does have pressure.
I don't really think she is low tier but why are you trying to jail into your high with frost? Just use B1 the string covers a lot of the problems you have with her. it's a mid, d1 is plus enough to guarantee it unless they do something like fatal blow , it has no gaps in the string either and it's safe.
Thank you! It just recently came out that both her front and back walk speed are the slowest in the game. Being able to dash block is huge with frost. And yes the b1 buff patched up many issues she had with pressure
I just changed my block to r1 as on testing I’m about twice as reliable at wavedashing with r1 compared to r2. Now I’ve just gotta retrain decades of MK blocking with r2.
