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My Match Up Chart For Poison Ivy

MysTiiK_V

"For Mother Nature"
Making a simple Mu Chart for my Queen, Feel free to comment your opinions.

Aquaman: 7-3

Atrocitus: 5-5( possible 6-4)

Bane: 5-5

Batman: 5-5

Black Adam: 4-6

Black Canary: 6-4

Black Manta: 5-5

Blue Beetle: HARD 4-6(3.5-6.5)

Brainiac: 5-5

Captain cold: 6-4

Catwoman: 5-5

Cheetah: 5-5

Cyborg: 4-6

Darkseid: 5-5

Deadshot: 5-5

Doctor Fate: 4-6(HARD)

The Flash: 5-5

Firestorm: 4-6

Grodd: 6-4

Green Arrow: 5-5( maybe 6-4 but i feel slightly ivy's favor)

Green Lantern: 4-6

Harley Quinn: 4-6

Hellboy: 4-6( Hate this character already)

Joker: 5-5

Raiden: 6-4

Red hood: 5-5

Robin: 5-5

Scarecrow: 5-5

Starfire: 4-6(HARD)

Sub zero: 5-5

Supergirl: 3-7(possible 4-6)

Superman: HARD 4-6

Swamp Thing: 5-5( maybe 6-4)

Wonder Woman: 5-5( maybe 6-4)
 
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colby4898

Special Forces Sonya Up-player
I think she goes even against cyborg.

I've always had trouble with poison Ivy anyway, shes jist my personal bad match up who 6-4's me lol

But that aside I cant see why this is a winning match for cyborg (i know you said possible 5-5).

I dont think he wins the zoning war that well really. Especially with your trait out and bark skin to avoid even taking thr chip damage.

Interesting to have your opinion on it. :)
 
Yeah ivy loses to swampthing it’s fact now. And yeah she loses to brainiac. She also loses to cyborg his zoning and mobility it’s too much for ivy. And for some reason i think superman is a worse match up for ivy than supergirl or is that just me?
 

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
Yeah ivy loses to swampthing it’s fact now. And yeah she loses to brainiac. She also loses to cyborg his zoning and mobility it’s too much for ivy. And for some reason i think superman is a worse match up for ivy than supergirl or is that just me?
Just you
 

MysTiiK_V

"For Mother Nature"
She definitely beats joker

DEFINITELY loses to braniac

I think she still loses to deadshot

I either agree or won’t argue with anything else
Ok, can you show me why ivy beats joker, I felt it was 5-5 but it may just be me. I've played Webb's and bots brainiac quite a bit, and I think its 5-5 after the nerf to brainiac. Deadshot hmmmm idk
 

MysTiiK_V

"For Mother Nature"
I think she goes even against cyborg.

I've always had trouble with poison Ivy anyway, shes jist my personal bad match up who 6-4's me lol

But that aside I cant see why this is a winning match for cyborg (i know you said possible 5-5).

I dont think he wins the zoning war that well really. Especially with your trait out and bark skin to avoid even taking thr chip damage.

Interesting to have your opinion on it. :)
Cyborg def wins the zoning war and your grapple is very useful for running away from her. When I get in you'll have a good amount of meter to pushblock and mb b3 her.
 

RevetLeafing

Tanya, Tanqui, and Kaprisun Specialist
Cheetah destroys Ivy. The damage output is incomparable. Cheetah lunges in for free. ivy's only hope of getting Cheetah out the air is jump 2 as the uppercut can't really be used on reaction. Cheetah doesn't care about any of her wake ups. Playing both of these characters I know what each are capable of.
 

Zionix

AKA Ponkster
Cheetah destroys Ivy. The damage output is incomparable. Cheetah lunges in for free. ivy's only hope of getting Cheetah out the air is jump 2 as the uppercut can't really be used on reaction. Cheetah doesn't care about any of her wake ups. Playing both of these characters I know what each are capable of.
I don't know what combos you are doing for ivy but the damage is definitely comparable. A vortex really helps as well.

On the ground approach Cheetah gets completely bullied by B2 and due to Cheetahs lack of a 6 frame and B2 always catching her backdash, Ivy's pressure keeps Cheetah trapped and enforces a d1/backdash mindgame that is heavily in Ivy's favour due to cheetahs low d1 confirm damage output.

Jp2 stops cheetah from lunging for free and a short lunge to try to bait it will get checked by the range of b2 or a drill.

Not free at all if the Ivy knows how it plays out.
 

RevetLeafing

Tanya, Tanqui, and Kaprisun Specialist
I don't know what combos you are doing for ivy but the damage is definitely comparable. A vortex really helps as well.

On the ground approach Cheetah gets completely bullied by B2 and due to Cheetahs lack of a 6 frame and B2 always catching her backdash, Ivy's pressure keeps Cheetah trapped and enforces a d1/backdash mindgame that is heavily in Ivy's favour due to cheetahs low d1 confirm damage output.

Jp2 stops cheetah from lunging for free and a short lunge to try to bait it will get checked by the range of b2 or a drill.

Not free at all if the Ivy knows how it plays out.
Cheetah has the best Backdash in the game, I suggest you back dash more in that mu, f3 and b2 is completely whiff punishable.

She doesn't get "bullied" lol. If you're losing to Ivy's as Cheetah then I honestly don't know what to tell you.

i know you like to disagree with me a lot on the mu's but this one is very much in Cheetah's favor
 

Zionix

AKA Ponkster
Cheetah has the best Backdash in the game, I suggest you back dash more in that mu, f3 and b2 is completely whiff punishable.

She doesn't get "bullied" lol. If you're losing to Ivy's as Cheetah then I honestly don't know what to tell you.

i know you like to disagree with me a lot on the mu's but this one is very much in Cheetah's favor
You haven't read what I have said at all. During ivys pressure when she is plus, Cheetah can't backdash or b2 catches her clean. Ivy should hardly ever be doing f3 in the match-up unless trait is up.

I never said it was losing, its 5-5.
 

RevetLeafing

Tanya, Tanqui, and Kaprisun Specialist
You haven't read what I have said at all. During ivys pressure when she is plus, Cheetah can't backdash or b2 catches her clean. Ivy should hardly ever be doing f3 in the match-up unless trait is up.

I never said it was losing, its 5-5.
I didn't read it all because it simply wasn't worth reading sis. It just gets frustrating, you having a rebuttal or remark to EVERY single thing I say. I don't know if it's built up tension or if you're just out to get me lol.

But either way, i'm still going to feel they way I do about this mu (6-4 in Cheetah's Favor). I literally body every Ivy lol, so if you need help with the mu hmu. Have a nice night sis
 

Zionix

AKA Ponkster
I didn't read it all because it simply wasn't worth reading sis. It just gets frustrating, you having a rebuttal or remark to EVERY single thing I say. I don't know if it's built up tension or if you're just out to get me lol.

But either way, i'm still going to feel they way I do about this mu (6-4 in Cheetah's Favor). I literally body every Ivy lol, so if you need help with the mu hmu. Have a nice night sis
Ahh the classic, you've read my post, realized you are probably incorrect and don't know what you are talking about and deflect.

You saying things like "backdash more" just goes to show how you haven't actually played the match-up with someone who has really labbed the Cheetah match-up as you will get caught clean with B2 during pressure and in the neutral you are just going to get hit by drills.

I've never lost to a random Ivy player, but a training partner who I've practiced with since launch who knows the ins and outs or all her gimmicks, how to avoid her oki and the weakness of her strings definitely gives me a run for my money.
 

MysTiiK_V

"For Mother Nature"
Making a simple Mu Chart for my Queen, Feel free to comment your opinions.

Aquaman: 7-3

Atrocitus: 5-5( possible 6-4)

Bane: 5-5

Batman: 5-5

Black Adam: 4-6

Black Canary: 6-4

Black Manta: 5-5

Blue Beetle: 4-6

Brainiac: 5-5

Captain cold: 6-4

Catwoman: 5-5

Cheetah: 5-5

Cyborg: 4-6 ( possible 5-5)

Darkseid: 5-5

Deadshot: 5-5

Doctor Fate: 4-6

The Flash: 5-5

Firestorm: 4-6

Grodd: 6-4

Green Arrow: 6-4( maybe 5-5 but i feel slightly ivy's favor)

Green Lantern: 5-5? ( maybe 4-6??)

Harley Quinn: 4-6

Hellboy: 4-6( for now IMO)

Joker: 5-5

Raiden: 6-4

Red hood: 5-5

Robin: 5-5

Scarecrow: 5-5

Starfire: 4-6

Sub zero: 6-4

Supergirl: 3-7

Superman: HARD 4-6

Swamp Thing: 5-5( maybe 6-4)

Wonder Woman: 5-5( maybe 6-4)
I don't know what combos you are doing for ivy but the damage is definitely comparable. A vortex really helps as well.

On the ground approach Cheetah gets completely bullied by B2 and due to Cheetahs lack of a 6 frame and B2 always catching her backdash, Ivy's pressure keeps Cheetah trapped and enforces a d1/backdash mindgame that is heavily in Ivy's favour due to cheetahs low d1 confirm damage output.

Jp2 stops cheetah from lunging for free and a short lunge to try to bait it will get checked by the range of b2 or a drill.

Not free at all if the Ivy knows how it plays out.
yeah, ivy could land a combo that does around typical 400 dmg, then go for a 50/50 vortex off the mb kiss and get another 400 with trait setup and guaranteed 200 chip dmg. ahh so lovely :D
 
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MysTiiK_V

"For Mother Nature"
I don't know what combos you are doing for ivy but the damage is definitely comparable. A vortex really helps as well.

On the ground approach Cheetah gets completely bullied by B2 and due to Cheetahs lack of a 6 frame and B2 always catching her backdash, Ivy's pressure keeps Cheetah trapped and enforces a d1/backdash mindgame that is heavily in Ivy's favour due to cheetahs low d1 confirm damage output.

Jp2 stops cheetah from lunging for free and a short lunge to try to bait it will get checked by the range of b2 or a drill.

Not free at all if the Ivy knows how it plays out.
if your farther than 3/4 screen ivy's s1 also completely shuts down her j3 once you get the timing down for it. Ain't that cute
 
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xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
Ok, can you show me why ivy beats joker, I felt it was 5-5 but it may just be me. I've played Webb's and bots brainiac quite a bit, and I think its 5-5 after the nerf to brainiac. Deadshot hmmmm idk
She beats joker at everything. She has the better buttons, the better neutral, the better footsies, better zoning, better damage, etc. J2 is good against his jump attacks or you can just MBb3.

The only thing that changed is now he can wake up. We used to be able to bully him on oki but that doesn’t really matter much.
 

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
I think she goes even against cyborg.

I've always had trouble with poison Ivy anyway, shes jist my personal bad match up who 6-4's me lol

But that aside I cant see why this is a winning match for cyborg (i know you said possible 5-5).

I dont think he wins the zoning war that well really. Especially with your trait out and bark skin to avoid even taking thr chip damage.

Interesting to have your opinion on it. :)
Lol if you’re getting outzoned by Ivy then yea you’re definitely playing it wrong.

You’re the one who should be doing the zoning. Not her. And you run away from her so free
 

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
Ahh the classic, you've read my post, realized you are probably incorrect and don't know what you are talking about and deflect.

You saying things like "backdash more" just goes to show how you haven't actually played the match-up with someone who has really labbed the Cheetah match-up as you will get caught clean with B2 during pressure and in the neutral you are just going to get hit by drills.

I've never lost to a random Ivy player, but a training partner who I've practiced with since launch who knows the ins and outs or all her gimmicks, how to avoid her oki and the weakness of her strings definitely gives me a run for my money.
Cheetah beats ivy man lol. I beat every cheetah I come across (haven’t played Revet yet) and I still think Ivy loses. A frame trap (which isn’t even that great in the first place) isn’t enough to call it even.

Drills aren’t that great in the MU at all. If you’re dealing with drills then you aren’t playing it correctly. Cheetah isn’t worried about them.

Ivy’s damage is great but cheetah’s is greater. So when it comes to the upclose game, it’s definitely in cheetah’s favor since she has a more easier time opening her up to land the monstrous damage.

Ivy does have the better footsies. That I agree with. That’s what she has to use to beat her.

A vortex isn’t something to use to discuss a MU imo. I hate when people use that as an excuse to declare a MU. EVERYONE has to deal with a vortex, not just a certain character, which is cheetah in this example. “O she has to deal with the vortex” ok so does the rest of the cast lol.

Idk man cheetah has a lot going for her in the MU. Ivy doesn’t get bodied or anything because she can hang, but it’s just harder for her.
 
Ahh the classic, you've read my post, realized you are probably incorrect and don't know what you are talking about and deflect.

You saying things like "backdash more" just goes to show how you haven't actually played the match-up with someone who has really labbed the Cheetah match-up as you will get caught clean with B2 during pressure and in the neutral you are just going to get hit by drills.

I've never lost to a random Ivy player, but a training partner who I've practiced with since launch who knows the ins and outs or all her gimmicks, how to avoid her oki and the weakness of her strings definitely gives me a run for my money.
Lol don’t worry about him. He lost to my ivy in wotg and had to pick starfire. So clearly even though in quotes “cheetah bodies ivy” ... he still felt that a hard counterpick was better. Clearly he doesn’t fight good ivy players
 

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
I think Grodd goes even with her
Idk. She doesn’t care about the projectile immunity due to drills still hitting him (MB doesn’t tho), her d2 is actually really good in the MU because it bodies the leap, her footsies and neutral are better than his, she faster and has more range, etc.

I’ve been dying to play you tho lol