Midscreen cross up otg

[Lars Lindegren]

I was messing around in practice and I noticed if you time the ji after her b3 right as the opponent hits the opposite wall and then delay 3-db3 till opponents is diagonally below you the dive will otg, cross up and quick stand opponent. The opponent can't tech roll or wake up if done right, and it will always cross up. On block, since it crossed up, it leaves you closer to the opponent and at an advantage.

The timing is pretty hard and I was getting it about half the time in practice so I'm not sure how practical this...

 

[Youphemism]

You mean in the middle of a combo or off of a raw b3? I'll mess about with this when I get the chance

 

[Drizzle]

You're probably better off doing b3, dash d2, divepunch for mid-screen OTGs. The damage is probably not much different and it's easy to do. Off of a d2 you can also set one up by doing b3, f3, dash into cross-up divepunch.

 

[Relaxedstate]

@FoxyGrandpa...ugh is he banned again? lol

He does a midscreen otg that can't be woken up/techrolled and I think this might be it. Also a midscreen vortex.

Yeah WW is fair

 

[Lars Lindegren]

The reason I like this one better is the cross up properties which leaves you closer to opp for 50/50

 

[Lars Lindegren]

Middle of any combo that has b3

 

[Drizzle]

The reason I like this one better is the cross up properties which leaves you closer to opp for 50/50

The one I posted does the exact same thing. On block or hit, you're in their face and get a mix-up.

 

[Lars Lindegren]

If it's the d2 they can tech roll it and it doesn't cross up... But this is by no means something that's a bnb, If I'm trying to make a character not wake up consistently in order to prevent teleport away ill do the foxy bnb b3 f3 dash dive punch for now

 

[Youphemism]

I myself can't hit this 100% but when I do get it I use it to mess with people:

Starter(b113/23/33), 23, b3, j3, dash under, insta-air db3

Basically you switch sides twice, after the dash under they think to block the other way but the db3 actually crosses them up so they have to block in the original direction they were blocking....if that makes sense

 

[Lars Lindegren]

I like the sound of that! I'll have to check it out when I get home

 

[Drizzle]

If it's the d2 they can tech roll it and it doesn't cross up... But this is by no means something that's a bnb, If I'm trying to make a character not wake up consistently in order to prevent teleport away ill do the foxy bnb b3 f3 dash dive punch for now

That's true. I always found it hard to get the cross-up divepunch off of b3, f3 but it might just be me. It seems like you can hold back and block it correctly 95% of the time.

 

[Chuckychuck]

If it's the d2 they can tech roll it and it doesn't cross up... But this is by no means something that's a bnb, If I'm trying to make a character not wake up consistently in order to prevent teleport away ill do the foxy bnb b3 f3 dash dive punch for now

So b113, 23, b3, dash d2, dive punch = cross up dive punch but can be tech rolled?

and b113, 23, b3, f3, dash, dive punch = cross up, cannot tech roll?

 

[Lars Lindegren]

Second one can't be tech rolled but it won't cross up if they are blocking high

 

[NYCj360]

try b113, b3 j3 j3 dive bomb, same outcome with high damage.

 

[Lars Lindegren]

Nice I'll have to check it out tomorrow!

 

[Chuckychuck]

try b113, b3 j3 j3 dive bomb, same outcome with high damage.

Ending with j3, dive bomb causes an OTG?

 

[NYCj360]

Ending with j3, dive bomb causes an OTG?

Yes, this setup is pretty strict but it leads to an untechable otg, you can otg off of any hit if you time it right. The dive bomb ignores the fundamental rules of invincibility on the ground so you can break the transition from the air to the floor before it becomes techable.

 

[Drizzle]

Second one can't be tech rolled but it won't cross up if they are blocking high

This is actually false. The divepunch can hit on either side depending on your timing and they just have to guess.