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Vslayer

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Just a quick reference guide for the most important info you need to know if you're not sure about a certain move. Some moves are also different depending on the range (like the jump kicks as we know are ++++ the deeper you do them). So these things you should lab, however, ranged moves universally leave you more + the further away you are and vice versa.


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appo

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F4 and F3 have different framedata on max range hit.

F3| -11 on Block / 16 Hit Advantage
F4| -04 on Block / 29 Hit Advantage

Blade Toss Bf1 seems to be wrong on your end or pc is different. - Close 14 / Far 40 hit advantage
 
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Vslayer

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F4 and F3 have different framedata on max range hit.

F3| -11 on Block / 16 Hit Advantage
F4| -04 on Block / 29 Hit Advantage

Blade Toss BF4 seems to be wrong on your end or pc is different. - Close 14 / Far 40 hit advantage
BF4 is not blade toss, it's the Molotov Cocktail.
 

Vslayer

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typo, meant of course bf1. might want to check it out with framedata display on
Wait I'm dumb LMFAO

Blade toss is optic blast in his last variation and that's the one I wrote down, oops. I'll fix it.
 

NothingPersonal

Are you not entertained!?
Yeah but no one can react to it is what he's saying, aka no one will punish it and if you try well GGs you're getting KB'ed, that was a close game. Now, this isn't a Cassie thread please people.
Plus on block high and plus on block mid aren't the same. You can't be serious.
 

Vslayer

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Plus on block high and plus on block mid aren't the same. You can't be serious.
What? I know the difference that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying no one is going to be able to see the F2 coming and punish it before 1+3 comes out ON reaction.
 

NothingPersonal

Are you not entertained!?
What? I know the difference that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying no one is going to be able to see the F2 coming and punish it before 1+3 comes out ON reaction.
True. But you can anticipate it and just duck or poke. If you think Kano's gonna do a mid what options do you have? Just block. I'm not saying you can react to it, I'm saying you have more options against a high than a mid. Thus, it's way better to have a plus mid.
 

DrFolmer

AKA Uncle Kano
True. But you can anticipate it and just duck or poke. If you think Kano's gonna do a mid what options do you have? Just block. I'm not saying you can react to it, I'm saying you have more options against a high than a mid. Thus, it's way better to have a plus mid.
He's the only one with a single move mid that's plus. But you didnt make that distinction. You just said plus on block mid, and I stated other characters have plus on block mids as part of strings. Cassie is unique in the sense f21+3 is a gapfree high into mid plus frame string. I JUST realized you were talking single normal move mids. It's all good fam
 

Whiplash

Nerve damage
True. But you can anticipate it and just duck or poke. If you think Kano's gonna do a mid what options do you have? Just block. I'm not saying you can react to it, I'm saying you have more options against a high than a mid. Thus, it's way better to have a plus mid.
First off Cassie is annoying in general. The string makes sense as a mid and other characters actually have low and mid starters where as Kano did not and it's 13 frames you can press a button to react to it.
 

NothingPersonal

Are you not entertained!?
Because of things like Jax 7 frame mid.
Jax's mid is 9 frames, if you're talking about his f3. D1 might be 7, I don't know.
First off Cassie is annoying in general. The string makes sense as a mid and other characters actually have low and mid starters where as Kano did not and it's 13 frames you can press a button to react to it.
No one can react to a 13 frames normal, no matter what it is. You can only anticipate it.
 

Vslayer

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Does anyone have the start-up frames of blade toss? I'm at work rn and wanna fix it.
 

Whiplash

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Jax's mid is 9 frames, if you're talking about his f3. D1 might be 7, I don't know.

No one can react to a 13 frames normal, no matter what it is. You can only anticipate it.
It's Jax D1 that is 7 frame his F3 is 9 and his and his F4 is plus 1 on block is mid following with a high that is plus 9 on block. Kitana has a mid that is 0 following into a low. Kabal has a mid that is plus 3 on block enforcing his plus enforcing strings. Cassie cage has multiple mids that end with plus on block. I really don't see how you find this unfair. There are more character in the game I can list. I don't see how you find plus stings new.