Johnny Cage must not be normalized.

[XxSYNDROISxX]

Leave the top-tier alone and buff the lower characters

 

[Wigy]

Gold as always.

 

[MagicMan357]

Didnt have the balls to tag me because you lost another argument lmfao what a sped.

And like i said before they should buff the whole game

And can we talk about how people who use top tier characters still suck at the game and dont do training mode?

 

[NaCl man]

Didnt have the balls to tag me because you lost another argument lmfao what a sped.

And like i said before they should buff the whole game

And can we talk about how people who use top tier characters still suck at the game and dont do training mode?

How would you know if anybody sux at the game? You don't play anybody but the ai.

 

[LMNYHappyDaze]

He’s always been able to use divekick for mobility in high level play. I think it adds to his tools/depth and I don’t think there’s a reason to remove it.

I don’t think so either. It is what it is tho. Virtually safe special (on whiff) that’s used in footsies

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Just a note that KIT is now the next event to have had two Cage players in Top 4. In this case both made the finals.

It’s also the umpteenth event in a row to be won by someone who either mains co-mains Johnny Cage.

Make of that what you will.

 

[John_NX]

I don't think he is necessarily overpowered but I do think he is very strong at the moment because he is great in everything he does.
-Plus frames all over the place with no risk? Check.
-Insane range on all his normals that are extremely hard to whiff punish and sometimes low profile? Check.
-Good and fast zoning? Check.
-Good staggers? Check.
-Almost fullscreen kick similar to jades? Check.
-Great pokes? Check.

He doesn't lack anything. The only thing he lacks is Krushing blows. He needs some adjustments to his frame data and maybe some KB in return.

 

[Vampbite]

As much as i hate fighting against JC, i do believe he is good as is. The only thing i would change in Outtake is his projectiles but overall, he has superb footies.

Agreed.

 

[Braindead]

It's 2020 and y'all still engaging with MD?

Can't be me

 

[Braindead]

Its not safe on whiff unless hes out of range but he has some recovery on whiffed divekick.

MK9 Bird Lao's divekick was plus on whiff

 

[DragonofDadashov24]

What the fuck? Before I got banned Johnny was an average character with horrible mid-game, had whiffs on everything had terrible combo execution and the worst KBs in the roster. You gotta be crazy to ask for nerfs for him.

 

[Zviko]

What the fuck? Before I got banned Johnny was an average character with horrible mid-game, had whiffs on everything had terrible combo execution and the worst KBs in the roster. You gotta be crazy to ask for nerfs for him.

"Before you got banned" was also before 3rd variations were added. No one is asking to nerf Johnny. Just his 3rd variation.

 

[Braindead]

What the fuck? Before I got banned Johnny was an average character with horrible mid-game, had whiffs on everything had terrible combo execution and the worst KBs in the roster. You gotta be crazy to ask for nerfs for him.

Looks like you haven't played the game since you were banned. Why did you even come back lol

 

[Vslayer]

What the fuck? Before I got banned Johnny was an average character with horrible mid-game, had whiffs on everything had terrible combo execution and the worst KBs in the roster. You gotta be crazy to ask for nerfs for him.

I guess you haven't seen patch notes or played against outtake Johnny since V3s dropped.

 

[DragonofDadashov24]

I guess you haven't seen patch notes or played against outtake Johnny since V3s dropped.

As a matter of fact I did but not as frequently. I remember someone win tourneys even with his first variation so I don’t think it’s a big deal

 

[DragonofDadashov24]

Now

"Before you got banned" was also before 3rd variations were added. No one is asking to nerf Johnny. Just his 3rd variation.

that’s just stupid. Weren’t people praying to NRS to give JC his og force ball?

 

[Zviko]

Now

that’s just stupid. Weren’t people praying to NRS to give JC his og force ball?

Yes but does it have to be so good that it makes him the best zoner in the game? Along with great mid range and safe special for stealing turns and godlike oki...

 

[DragonofDadashov24]

Yes but does it have to be so good that it makes him the best zoner in the game? Along with great mid range and safe special for stealing turns and godlike oki...

I think it’s fine. Geras is the biggest privk in the game who needs fixing

 

[thlityoursloat]

Yes but does it have to be so good that it makes him the best zoner in the game? Along with great mid range and safe special for stealing turns and godlike oki...

Best zoner in the game is a bit of a reach imo, especially when they don't do that much damage, stop being mids at a certain distance and are not that difficult to flawless block. They are more of an excellent counterzoning tool than anything.

 

[DragonofDadashov24]

Best zoner in the game is a bit of a reach imo, especially when they don't do that much damage, stop being mids at a certain distance and are not that difficult to flawless block. They are more of an excellent counterzoning tool than anything.

Ikr, he only hits you if you block far away and it’s no trouble to get JC close

 

[mrapchem]

Yes but does it have to be so good that it makes him the best zoner in the game? Along with great mid range and safe special for stealing turns and godlike oki...

Johnny's the best zoner in the game now??? And he has godlike okizeme???

This is massive upplaying - JC's fireball is the fastest projectile in the game with very little recovery, but it can be ducked once the opponent is closer than 3/4ths screen. This is why we don't see JC players zoning out the whole cast. Not to mention, how does JC lock people down on knockdown with his 11 and 14-frame advancing highs in this game?

 

[Rodney Quillz]

Is that...is that downplay?!

 

[DragonofDadashov24]

Turns out my banned ass knows more than those of a frequent player of TYM
Noice

 

[deathstroke187]

his getting nerfed next patch from the leaked discord patch note. i cant say too much but Frames are getting hit.

 

[Zviko]

Johnny's the best zoner in the game now??? And he has godlike okizeme???

This is massive upplaying - JC's fireball is the fastest projectile in the game with very little recovery, but it can be ducked once the opponent is closer than 3/4ths screen. This is why we don't see JC players zoning out the whole cast. Not to mention, how does JC lock people down on knockdown with his 11 and 14-frame advancing highs in this game?

At full screen it's one of the best zoning tools in the game. At the range you can duck them he has great normals and by godlike oki I mentioned comes from godlike special move - rising star. Outtake is VERY good at every range. Stop denying it already...