Question IS IT FAIR DEEP NEUTRAL JUMP PUNCHES BEING PLUS ON BLOCK?

[Bruno-NeoSpace]

Launchers that are plus, and a lot of them are amazing neutral jump punches like Kung Jin's, Takeda's, Triborg's, etc. So... launchers that are plus on block and have amazing hitbox...

 

[errormacro7]

The salt is real.

 

[Braindead]

No should be nerfed IMO. Even NJKs need nerfs.

 

[CrazyFingers]

No should be nerfed IMO. Even NJKs need nerfs.

100% agree. While I love my NJK shenanigans, they shouldn't be plus WITH that much block stun and launchers just shouldn't plus for the most part so deep NJP's being plus has always been a pet peeve of mine.

 

[TyCarter35]

No should be nerfed IMO. Even NJKs need nerfs.

At least NJK's don't launch. But fr tho the block stun is a bit too much at times even tho in the corner the only thing I'm guaranteed is an 8 frame d4 from my experience

 

[Name v.5.0]

Is it fair? Yes, in the sense that everyone can do it. Is it a ridiculous mechanic in a game dominated with dumb shit once you're on your back? Absolutely. Deep neutral jump attacks in corner is one of the lamest aspects of this game.

 

[MK_Al]

If they would be minuns there wouldn't be a reason to AA; so yes, it is fair. They shouldn't jail into stuff though - there should be a gap

 

[SonicNinja3532]

If they would be minuns there wouldn't be a reason to AA; so yes, it is fair. They shouldn't jail into stuff though - there should be a gap

The reason is to aa is to stop them from launching you or just getting pressure, there's always a reason to aa.

 

[trufenix]

I hope every fucking attack in Injustice 2 is negative. I hope some characters get autoparried and lose health if they press certain buttons while the enemy is blocking.

 

[CrazyFingers]

I hope every fucking attack in Injustice 2 is negative. I hope some characters get autoparried and lose health if they press certain buttons while the enemy is blocking.

Come on you gotta have some plus frames, you kill any aggression if you don't have plus frames we just can't have fucking +20 or higher on block. Hell even +10 is pushing it for me. We don't need to remove them, we just need to make them less severe

 

[MadPropz101]

This whole game in general needs to get toned waaaaay the fuck down.

 

[UsedForGlue]

Nope.

Ive said since week one that it makes absolutely no sense that an attack on the way down is both Overhead and advantage, some have soooo much advantage that they jail high attacks, yet, a MID attack on the way up is unsafe...

Now, I'm all for a quick NJP mid attacks being unsafe on block, totally for it, as it should be. But, there is no reason to make the overhead option also plus on block. It should be be safe, but not advantage.

You shouldn't get punished as the defender because universal anti airs in the game are unreliable. It also doesn't promote good play.

 

[Ragnarök Tyr]

In higher level you typically see them in the corner after a knock down. So you'll rarely get the chance to Armor or try to AA them correctly.

 

[Invincible Salads]

Come on you gotta have some plus frames, you kill any aggression if you don't have plus frames we just can't have fucking +20 or higher on block. Hell even +10 is pushing it for me. We don't need to remove them, we just need to make them less severe

theres nothing wrong with the pressure characters having jailing pressure. As for the plus on block njp, maybe not plus, but at least 0. Also putting a gap in jip's is stupid, thats a bandaid for simply not making anti-airs work properly, they just need to do what they shoulda done from the start in the next patch and make anti-airing good.

 

[CrazyFingers]

theres nothing wrong with the pressure characters having jailing pressure. As for the plus on block njp, maybe not plus, but at least 0. Also putting a gap in jip's is stupid, thats a bandaid for simply not making anti-airs work properly, they just need to do what they shoulda done from the start in the next patch and make anti-airing good.

I'm fine with Jump In Punches jailing if jumping wasn't so strong as you mentioned

 

[xInfra Deadx]

There are worse things out there than deep neutrals...

...it can wait.

 

[Untiered]

Absolutely not, only neutral jump kicks should be plus.

 

[Osagri]

At least NJK's don't launch. But fr tho the block stun is a bit too much at times even tho in the corner the only thing I'm guaranteed is an 8 frame d4 from my experience

IT does on corner and....scorpion
Edit. Just realized u said neutral jump kick

 

[GLoRToR]

Launchers that are plus, and a lot of them are amazing neutral jump punches like Kung Jin's, Takeda's, Triborg's, etc. So... launchers that are plus on block and have amazing hitbox...

I'm thinking that the range of njp itself should be standard. It's a launcher that's really fast, shouldn't have a reach that great.

 

[Scott The Scot]

Nah it's not fair. For example, Smoke can do his 213 or F213 ender run and do a neutral jump - this reverses and or avoids almost all wakeups then you can neutral jump kick on the way down and be plus on block. It's very good.

 

[Bruno-NeoSpace]

Yeah... that jump back attack tech is also stupid... you end your combo with a knockdown into forward dash into jump back attack and your opponent is forced to block

This should happen to the jump back attacks:

- Strings or normal attacks can no longer be linked after a BACKWARDS jump attack on BLOCK ONLY. (the follow ups will still come out and connect on hit).

 

[neveradestroyer]

At the highest level, jumping becomes impossible unless you have a divekick or something similar. People complains because certain characters like Sonya makes anti air difficult.

 

[THTB]

Lol wtf?

The only game I've played where neutral jump attacks weren't + on the way down was MK9.

This is literally only a problem because jump normals are so good. Reducing the advantage isn't the answer and is actually exceedingly weird to see that's requested.

 

[SneakyTortoise]

Lbsh, if you're complaining about njks/njps you're probably getting bodied in every other aspect of the game

 

[ArmedCalf]

Lbsh, if you're complaining about njks/njps you're probably getting bodied in every other aspect of the game

How so?? You have no meter and Takeda has you in the corner...you gotta hold that shit lol. Deep NJP's into the f1 string is terrifying and you can't avoid it. Super powerful on oki.