Is 3rd variation a joke?

[JJParker]

Kollector now gets over 500 unbreakable damage using 2 bars in variation 3 after the aftermath patch.

 

[FeverAyeAye]

Kollector now gets over 500 unbreakable damage using 2 bars in variation 3 after the aftermath patch.

How does that work? I don't know Kollector very well.

 

[Darth Mao]

2 bars:
f4~bf4 ex; j2; 443; db4 ex (AB); 2, 1+3 [restand +0]
448.79


f4~bf4 ex; j2; 443; db4 ex (AB); 2, 1+3~Fatal Blow
652.99

 

[FeverAyeAye]

2 bars:
f4~bf4 ex; j2; 443; db4 ex (AB); 2, 1+3 [restand +0]
448.79


f4~bf4 ex; j2; 443; db4 ex (AB); 2, 1+3~Fatal Blow
652.99

I'm guessing the db4 after 443 works whether they breakaway or not, no guessing involved?

 

[Darth Mao]

Yes, no guessing involved.

 

[The Slaj Jazz]

What are some combos you guys have for v3? Anything with b2,3?

 

[EpicPour]

What are some combos you guys have for v3? Anything with b2,3?

easy one is B2,3 DB4 MB then you have plenty of options... micro dash 22 DB3 or 4 DB 4 or just D2.. I'm sure theres a lot more but thos are mine
if you'll fast you can d 2 1+3 for a restand

 

[Zer0_h0ur]

I'm having fun with Squander but seem to really struggle versus strong zoning. If only Relic Lure still parried projectiles. The Chakram is so damn slow I feel like anyone can avoid it with minimal effort.

Also has anyone hit the Chakram KB? LOL shit is so dumb

 

[Jeffrey Wolf]

I'm having fun with Squander but seem to really struggle versus strong zoning. If only Relic Lure still parried projectiles. The Chakram is so damn slow I feel like anyone can avoid it with minimal effort.

Also has anyone hit the Chakram KB? LOL shit is so dumb

I'd say zoning is the only downside to Squander. Otherwise, the character is amazing. If you face a zoner, I'd say just use one of the other two variations or an anti-zoner character. The Chakram KB has limited use, sure, but he has 5 other KBs and amazing damage, so it's just icing on the cake if you do hit it.

 

[Zer0_h0ur]

I'd say zoning is the only downside to Squander. Otherwise, the character is amazing. If you face a zoner, I'd say just use one of the other two variations or an anti-zoner character. The Chakram KB has limited use, sure, but he has 5 other KBs and amazing damage, so it's just icing on the cake if you do hit it.

I feel like kollector overall as a character gets shafted in the KB department, esp after the throw KB patch.
No one falls for 32 KB. Only idiots roll towards Kollector for cmd grab is rare. The Ball charge KB is a huge slap in the face IMO. And Chakram KB is as well.
D2, Throw, S2 are the only viable ones. And S2's dmg is shit compared to other kounter KBs.

 

[EpicPour]

I feel like kollector overall as a character gets shafted in the KB department, esp after the throw KB patch.
No one falls for 32 KB. Only idiots roll towards Kollector for cmd grab is rare. The Ball charge KB is a huge slap in the face IMO. And Chakram KB is as well.
D2, Throw, S2 are the only viable ones. And S2's dmg is shit compared to other kounter KBs.

I say 32 is a decent KB, the theory is there since F1 is so dangerous on him... he really doesn't need KB since hes got that 443 launch damage

 

[EpicPour]

I'd say zoning is the only downside to Squander. Otherwise, the character is amazing. If you face a zoner, I'd say just use one of the other two variations or an anti-zoner character. The Chakram KB has limited use, sure, but he has 5 other KBs and amazing damage, so it's just icing on the cake if you do hit it.

the disc KB is so stupid

 

[Wigy]

I say 32 is a decent KB, the theory is there since F1 is so dangerous on him... he really doesn't need KB since hes got that 443 launch damage

32 is not decent. It will literally never land on a competent player.

 

[Zer0_h0ur]

Yeah I'll land 32 in maybe once in a longer set against decent players but literally never in a KL FT2 against a decent player.

 

[Wigy]

Yeah I'll land 32 in maybe once in a longer set against decent players but literally never in a KL FT2 against a decent player.

its extremely reactable i dont think anyone should ever get caught. 3 into f1 is way too slow to enforce any kind of ghetto mixup

 

[Zer0_h0ur]

BTW
Anyone else have tougher time landing JI2 after ex chakram ?

I realized... The enemy's head hurt box moves back on their animation when stunned. Wonder if that's the reason

 

[MsMiharo]

BTW
Anyone else have tougher time landing JI2 after ex chakram ?

I realized... The enemy's head hurt box moves back on their animation when stunned. Wonder if that's the reason

Wait a split second after landing the hit and doing the jump

 

[Jeffrey Wolf]

I just picked up Squander and I've already hit with Chakram KB and 34 against a competent opponent. I hear that you're not going to get them a lot, but there's little risk in throwing 34 out since there's no gap and the pushback at -8 means you're not going to get punished. Same for Chakram in the far neutral. The 2,1+3 KB is an amazing anti-air and is near 28% which isn't bad at all. And for one bar with the same starter you get 34%+ which is ridiculous. And the mace charge KB you can get after you condition the opponent. Not often, sure, but even if he didn't have all those and just had D2 and throw KB, this character's damage output is still amazing, especially since it can be unbreakable when the opponent has bar. And now he has one of the best mid strings in the game. This should be a time to be excited about playing Kollector, no?

 

[Zer0_h0ur]

I think I'm the only Kollector player who finds s2 too damn slow to use as an AA lol

 

[haketh]

Still wish I could replicate this

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1166927409603497984